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Manchester Business School,UK or Schulich, Canada?

by Aayaam » Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:08 am
Hello Everyone !

I have a decent work exp of 5yrs (Technology- 2yrs, Marketing/Strategy - 3yrs) and wish to pursue my MBA in Consulting. To this end, with a score of 660 in GMAT, I have managed to secure admits from MBS, UK and Schulich, Canada but I am unsure about which one to choose. I am listing here few pros and cons of each one of them.

Manchester Business School

Pros
1. Excellent Curriculum
2. Cost of MBA - Fairly low as compared to Schulich - $60,000
3. Long History and fairly Good Reputation Worldwide
4. Strong Alumni Network

Cons
1. UK Economy and Post study work visa issues...securing a job in UK is a big question mark..



Schulich Business School, Canada

Pros
1. Canadian Economy is stable and no PSW Visa hassles
2. Based out of Toronto, better work opportunities

Cons
1. Reputation is ok..not very well known across the globe
2. Cost is high - Tuition fees - $90,000
3. Relatively new b school and hence Alumni network not very strong
4. York University not very well known

Please help me decide !

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Aayaam
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by Sorry4PartyRocking » Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:46 am
Aayaam wrote:Hello Everyone !

I have a decent work exp of 5yrs (Technology- 2yrs, Marketing/Strategy - 3yrs) and wish to pursue my MBA in Consulting. To this end, with a score of 660 in GMAT, I have managed to secure admits from MBS, UK and Schulich, Canada but I am unsure about which one to choose. I am listing here few pros and cons of each one of them.

Manchester Business School

Pros
1. Excellent Curriculum
2. Cost of MBA - Fairly low as compared to Schulich - $60,000
3. Long History and fairly Good Reputation Worldwide
4. Strong Alumni Network

Cons
1. UK Economy and Post study work visa issues...securing a job in UK is a big question mark..



Schulich Business School, Canada

Pros
1. Canadian Economy is stable and no PSW Visa hassles
2. Based out of Toronto, better work opportunities

Cons
1. Reputation is ok..not very well known across the globe
2. Cost is high - Tuition fees - $90,000
3. Relatively new b school and hence Alumni network not very strong
4. York University not very well known

Please help me decide !

Cheers
Aayaam
Hello Aayaam,

Firstly, Congratulations on your admits. Secondly, let me ask you What do you mean when you say that you wish to work in Consulting? Is it Consulting as a function in either your present industry or similar industry such as Internal consultant? or Is it Consulting as a function in Consulting industry working for the likes of McK/BCG/Bain/BoozAH etc?

If your goal is former, curriculum wise Manchester will suit your needs, if you target is latter, neither will fulfull it - they may however, help you achieve it ! - but it's rather a long shot. ( According to my opinion of course!)

Talk to people presently working in such companies, you'll find a pattern.... graduates from top MBA programs, several candidates with international mindset and knowledge of multiple global languages and high GMAT score.

Understand that I am not saying that yours is not ! just that when you go to either BCG or McK and wish to apply, they will ask for your GMAT / LSAT score. On those same website, you'll find a list of schools where they tend to recruit. MBS & Schulich doesn't feature there.....in fact, with the exception of LBS, INSEAD, you may want to look towards US. For other schools such as top school in Italy or Australia, they would rather take a local (due to language, visa , etc etc) than you.

In US however, they may tend to sponsor you, as you would have already proved that you are a top notch when you bagged the admit from H/W/S/Tuck/Chicago/NYU/Cornell/UCLA/Hass and the likes....

BR
Sorry4PartyRocking

PS: I am neither an alumni, nor a consultant, nor a present student.
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by mbaguy2012 » Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:55 pm
Hi,

I absolutely agree with Sorry4PartyRocking.

Management Consulting companies are very choosy & the way UK's economy is going, i am sure it will be very difficult for you to get through any of the Big 4/5/6 mainly because of Visa issues & yes GMAT score may play an important part too. However if during the program you get successful in securing an internship with any of the top consulting companies then there could be a possibility.

Schulich is not that reputed amongst the major Management Consulting companies and has no international reputation at all, it is good for other reasons. Why didn't you apply to Rotman & Queens.
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by OnlineStudent » Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:46 am
Hi Aayaam,

Manchester Business School has an Asian campus in Singapore - https://singapore.portals.mbs.ac.uk/MBA ... cture.aspx, have you considered doing your studies there? You listed the UK economy and job market as the main deterrent for undertaking the program, I think your concerns are well founded, Europe is not doing well at all -

The unemployment rate in the United States was last reported at 8.2 percent in May of 2012 - tradingeconomics.com
The UK unemployment rate will rise from its current 8.3% to almost 9% by the end of this year (2012) - www.bbc.co.uk
The unemployment rate in Singapore was last reported at 2.1 percent in the first quarter of 2012. - tradingeconomics.com

I've advice a number of BTG forumers against studying in Europe or US without a careful assessment of the country's economic situation - https://www.beatthegmat.com/mba-from-fra ... tml#480612 - many of my friends in Singapore are also very eager study in the west, they've an impression that it'd be a nice experience and a change in environment - that much is true, but after graduation, many of them return to Singapore because they cannot find jobs. If many of the country's own graduates are unemployed, it's highly unlikely that international graduates would have an easier time looking for employment.

If you're open to the idea, perhaps you'd like to consider studying in Singapore, this is truly a meritocratic country, where academic abilities are placed above everything else. Here's a relevant read for you - https://www.coursesinsg.com/2012/06/5-re ... apore.html
Aayaam wrote:Hello Everyone !

I have a decent work exp of 5yrs (Technology- 2yrs, Marketing/Strategy - 3yrs) and wish to pursue my MBA in Consulting. To this end, with a score of 660 in GMAT, I have managed to secure admits from MBS, UK and Schulich, Canada but I am unsure about which one to choose. I am listing here few pros and cons of each one of them.

Manchester Business School

Pros
1. Excellent Curriculum
2. Cost of MBA - Fairly low as compared to Schulich - $60,000
3. Long History and fairly Good Reputation Worldwide
4. Strong Alumni Network

Cons
1. UK Economy and Post study work visa issues...securing a job in UK is a big question mark..



Schulich Business School, Canada

Pros
1. Canadian Economy is stable and no PSW Visa hassles
2. Based out of Toronto, better work opportunities

Cons
1. Reputation is ok..not very well known across the globe
2. Cost is high - Tuition fees - $90,000
3. Relatively new b school and hence Alumni network not very strong
4. York University not very well known

Please help me decide !

Cheers
Aayaam
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by thegreatgatsby » Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:48 pm
Hi
I was wondering what colleges should I target in all the different categories

Current Profile:

Age-23 M/ India
High School: 85%
Senior Secondary School: 86%
Graduation: 63.15% B.E. (Honors) in Mechanical from Delhi College of Engineering, India (Top 10 in India).

Work Experience: 14 months with Alstom India Ltd as field operations engineer.
"¢ Responsible for erection of pressure parts, mills and air preheaters in unit 5 at NTPC Barh - India's First Supercritical Boiler (5X660MW)
"¢ Erection of pressure parts at APGENCO KRISHNAPATNAM Site - 2X800MW Boiler
"¢ Prepared Commissioning procedure Phase 1 for Bokaro - 36MW BPTG Project
"¢ Had a cross-functional stint for two months in Supply Chain Management and Project Management
"¢ Training for one month at NPTI, Badarpur on Intoduction to Power Plants
"¢ Attended workshop on Commissioning and start up system of Supercritical Boilers
"¢ Completed Field Weld Schedule for the Supercritical Boiler
"¢ Developing Work Packages for the sequence of erection of panels, coils and headers in a Supercritical Boiler
"¢ Preparing Weekly report of the work progress and developing the punch list for the client BHEL in order to complete the construction.


Achievements: Was awarded scholarship for 4 years of graduation under Prime Minister's Scholarship scheme. Also was awarded certificate from Hindi Academy of India for performing exceptionally well in school.
Was awarded Man of the Match in final match of Alstom's Corporate Cricket Tournament.


Extra Curricular: Did a project on radio controlled Aeroplane while in college. Team went to Georgia ,USA and came 26th out of 65 teams. I was the captain of the team.
Organised various technical fests in college.
Cricket captain of college and won many trophies with college cricket team. Actively involved in other games like football and athletics as well.
Currently play for Alstom Corporate Cricket Team.

CSR: Got a chance to meet with the children of an NGO which had a tie up with Alstom and participated in a painting competition with them.
Also participated in Alstom's Spring water Recharge programme in Hilly areas.

GMAT Score: 680 (Q48, V34)........

Post MBA Concentration: Consulting, Marketing, General Management

Colleges who received my score till now:
University of Pittsburgh, Katz
Rotterdam Erasmus General Mgmt
HEC Paris, MIM
Vlerick Leuven
York Schulich

I selected my target schools on the basis of these 3 factors:
1) Cost to attend MBA
2) Reputation and Ranking
3) Employment post MBA

What are the other schools I should target? What is my chance this year at York Schulich, Texas A & M and BYU? Should i wait for 1 more year so that European colleges mainly in Germany also opens door for me? I am more keen on doing an MBA but should i also apply to MIM from HEC and Erasmus because of the reputation of these programs. What about top 50 colleges in USA and Canada? Can i get scholarship based on merit?

Kindly do the profiling and i look forward to hear from you.

Thanks in Advance
Chandan Mishra
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by alunl » Sat Sep 08, 2012 12:07 pm
For those of you reading this and who are considering Manchester Business School you may want to visit my blog at www.mbamanchester.com

I've just started on the Full time MBA at MBS so hopefully my thoughts might give you some insight as to whether Manchester is for you.
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