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geet: Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts; Posts: 115; Joined: Fri Dec 26, 2008 2:18 amFollowed by: 1 member; Location: india; Thanked: 3 times

by geet » Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:13 am

A recent review of pay scales indicates that CEO’s now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times in 1980.

A. that CEO’s now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times
B. that, on average, CEO’s now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, a ratio that compares to 42 times
C. that, on average, CEO’s now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio
D. CEO’s who now earn on average 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio
E. CEO’s now earning an average of 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, compared to the ratio of 42 times

GUYZ do explain it!! OA l8r

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by graghukalyan » Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:47 am

I think it has to be "B"

There is a redundant usage of "419 times more" in options A,D. Hence eliminated. The last part of C,D doesnt look structurally correct.

Hence we are left out with B & E.

IMO E looks wordy with the usage of "on average" awkward.

Answer IMO- B

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by aspyr » Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:54 am

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by goelmohit2002 » Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:42 am

IMO "B". But I think there is some typo here..... CEO's should be CEOs...since we cannot have possesive CEO's.

Can someone please help me in clarifying whether there is any difference between "the ratio" and "a ratio"

A. that CEO’s now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times
Wrong comparison: pay compared to workers.

B. that, on average, CEO’s now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, a ratio that compares to 42 times
Correct.

C. that, on average, CEO’s now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio
"their" ambiguous....CEOs or workers.

D. CEO’s who now earn on average 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio
"that" before CEOs required. Moreover wrong comparison....pay is compared to workers.

E. CEO’s now earning an average of 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, compared to the ratio of 42 times
that required before CEOs. Moreover without any definite verb such as "are"....the sentence is a fragment...it should be CEOs "are" now......

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by nikhilkatira » Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:29 am

Can anyone explain in detail why Option B is right and C is wrong ?

Best,
Nikhil H. Katira

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by reply2spg » Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:37 am

'their' is wrong in C.

nikhilkatira wrote:Can anyone explain in detail why Option B is right and C is wrong ?

Sudhanshu
(have lot of things to learn from all of you)

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by tomada » Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:40 am

I'll dare to be different, and say that the answer is 'C'.

Since 'B' appears to be the most popular answer, I'll use that as a basis.
Using the underlined portion from 'B', the sentence becomes:

A recent review of pay scales indicates that, on average, CEO's now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, a ratio that compares to 42 times in 1980.

I see no problem until the phrase a ratio that compares to 42 times in 1980.
A ratio that compares to 42 times what in 1980? The '42' has no context here. I suppose I should assume that 42 represents the wage ratio of CEOs to blue-collar workers in 1980, but I think that needs to be explicit.

Choices 'C' and 'D' are the only two choices which include this contextual reference.
Of these two, I believe 'C' is correct.

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by reply2spg » Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:45 am

Sorry to differ with you. But I think 'the ratio in 1980' modifies 'pay'. It is wrong modification. Also could you please help me to understand what is 'their' referring to?

C. that, on average, CEO's now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio

tomada wrote:I'll dare to be different, and say that the answer is 'C'.

Since 'B' appears to be the most popular answer, I'll use that as a basis.
Using the underlined portion from 'B', the sentence becomes:

A recent review of pay scales indicates that, on average, CEO's now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, a ratio that compares to 42 times in 1980.
I see no problem until the phrase a ratio that compares to 42 times in 1980.
A ratio that compares to 42 times what in 1980? The '42' has no context here. I suppose I should assume that 42 represents the wage ratio of CEOs to blue-collar workers in 1980, but I think that needs to be explicit.

Choices 'C' and 'D' are the only two choices which include this contextual reference.
Of these two, I believe 'C' is correct.

Sudhanshu
(have lot of things to learn from all of you)

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by tomada » Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:52 am

Hey, no need to be sorry.

Do we know the OA?

reply2spg wrote:Sorry to differ with you. But I think 'the ratio in 1980' modifies 'pay'. It is wrong modification. Also could you please help me to understand what is 'their' referring to?

C. that, on average, CEO's now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio

tomada wrote:I'll dare to be different, and say that the answer is 'C'.

Since 'B' appears to be the most popular answer, I'll use that as a basis.
Using the underlined portion from 'B', the sentence becomes:

A recent review of pay scales indicates that, on average, CEO's now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, a ratio that compares to 42 times in 1980.
I see no problem until the phrase a ratio that compares to 42 times in 1980.
A ratio that compares to 42 times what in 1980? The '42' has no context here. I suppose I should assume that 42 represents the wage ratio of CEOs to blue-collar workers in 1980, but I think that needs to be explicit.

Choices 'C' and 'D' are the only two choices which include this contextual reference.
Of these two, I believe 'C' is correct.

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by kvcpk » Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:38 am

Contrary to the beliefs of many here, Answer is C. Here is Ron's explanation:

https://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/gma ... t1889.html

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by tomada » Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:53 am

Whoa! I actually hit it.

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by pnk » Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:13 am

geet wrote:A recent review of pay scales indicates that CEOï¿½s now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times in 1980.

A. that CEOï¿½s now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times
B. that, on average, CEOï¿½s now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, a ratio that compares to 42 times
C. that, on average, CEOï¿½s now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio
D. CEOï¿½s who now earn on average 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio
E. CEOï¿½s now earning an average of 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, compared to the ratio of 42 times

GUYZ do explain it!! OA l8r

B vs E

I think 'indicate' can be used both with or without 'that'. In E Placement of 'average' is closer to '419 times' - that it modifies. 'Compared' - past tense is also correct. It also has verb 'indicates'...so its not run-on. IMO E

Problem with C - 'as' used to compare noun; Its not clear what 'the ratio' modifies.

Lets take final view from some expert.

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by nikhilkatira » Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:42 am

tomada wrote:I'll dare to be different, and say that the answer is 'C'.

Since 'B' appears to be the most popular answer, I'll use that as a basis.
Using the underlined portion from 'B', the sentence becomes:

A recent review of pay scales indicates that, on average, CEO's now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, a ratio that compares to 42 times in 1980.
I see no problem until the phrase a ratio that compares to 42 times in 1980.
A ratio that compares to 42 times what in 1980? The '42' has no context here. I suppose I should assume that 42 represents the wage ratio of CEOs to blue-collar workers in 1980, but I think that needs to be explicit.

Choices 'C' and 'D' are the only two choices which include this contextual reference.
Of these two, I believe 'C' is correct.

Hey buddy,
I also applied the same logic...

Best,
Nikhil H. Katira

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tomada: Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts; Posts: 406; Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:36 amFollowed by: 4 members; Location: Syracuse, NY; Thanked: 23 times; GMAT Score:740

by tomada » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:30 am

Hi Five, Nikhil!

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nikhilkatira: Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts; Posts: 318; Joined: Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:55 am; Thanked: 12 times

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by nikhilkatira » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:52 am

tomada wrote:Hi Five, Nikhil!

Hi tomada..
can you please help me with this SC question

https://www.beatthegmat.com/soaring-tel ... tml#275490

Best,
Nikhil H. Katira

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