Aman verma wrote:Do they give Arithmetic or Geometric Progression questions on the actual GMAT TEST ?

Brent Hanneson wrote:

Aman verma wrote:Do they give Arithmetic or Geometric Progression questions on the actual GMAT TEST ?

For some who aren't sure about these terms, an arithmetic progression is a sequence where the terms increase or decrease by a fixed amount.
Examples: 2, 5, 8, 11, 14 . . . (each term is 3 greater than the preceding term)
7, 2, -3, -8, -13 . . . (each term is 5 less than the preceding term)

A geometric progression is a sequence where we get each term by multiplying the previous term be a fixed value.
Examples: 2, 6, 18, 54, . . . (each term is 3 times the preceding term)
Examples: 500, 50, 5, 0.5, . . . (each term is 1/10 times the preceding term)

It would be reasonable to see either type on the test BUT you would not be expected to know the terms Arithmetic Progression or Geometric Progression. The sequence would be described (for example t1 = 2 and tn = t(n-1) + 3 is one way to describe/define the sequence 2, 5, 8, 11, . . . )

Aman verma wrote:I would like to know whether the following a Geometric Progression question ?

Q: X paid $ 9.75 for the taxi fare for his journey from airport to home. he did not paid any tip. If the cab driver charged
$ 1.00 for the 1st 1/5th mile and $ 0.40 for each subsequent 1/5th mile , what was the total distance travelled by X for the journey ?

a) 20.5

b)19.5

c)13.12

d) 9.75

e) 11.5

Please give me a solution for this problem and tell me whether this is a Geometric progression Question ?

Aman verma wrote:I would like to know whether the following a Geometric Progression question ?

Q: X paid $ 9.75 for the taxi fare for his journey from airport to home. he did not paid any tip. If the cab driver charged
$ 1.00 for the 1st 1/5th mile and $ 0.40 for each subsequent 1/5th mile , what was the total distance travelled by X for the journey ?

a) 20.5

b)19.5

c)13.12

d) 9.75

e) 11.5

Please give me a solution for this problem and tell me whether this is a Geometric progression Question ?

Stuart Kovinsky wrote:

Aman verma wrote:I would like to know whether the following a Geometric Progression question ?

Q: X paid $ 9.75 for the taxi fare for his journey from airport to home. he did not paid any tip. If the cab driver charged
$ 1.00 for the 1st 1/5th mile and $ 0.40 for each subsequent 1/5th mile , what was the total distance travelled by X for the journey ?

a) 20.5

b)19.5

c)13.12

d) 9.75

e) 11.5

Please give me a solution for this problem and tell me whether this is a Geometric progression Question ?

This is a great example of a progression question that you can answer even if you have no knowledge of progressions.

To solve, we'd simply work our way through the problem:

$9.75 total, minus $1.00 for the first .2 miles leaves us with $8.75.

$8.75/$.40 = bit more than 21 tells us the mileage for the rest of the journey.

Only choice (A) is more than 20, so we confidently pick it without doing any further calculations. If we needed to be more precise, the answer would be:

8.75/.40 + .2

(which, as harsh.champ notes, isn't one of the choices, so there's an error in the question somewhere).

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Regarding more formal progression questions (we often call them sequence questions), they're fairly rare on the GMAT. Learn to understand the definitions that you're given and how they work, but you don't need to spend a lot of time worrying about them.

$8.75/$.40 = bit more than 21 tells us the mileage for the rest of the journey.

Only choice (A) is more than 20, so we confidently pick it without doing any further calculations. If we needed to be more precise, the answer would be:

8.75/.40 + .2

harsh.champ wrote:
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Hey Stuart,
I think over here you fell into one of the question traps
.In the question it is written that $ 1.00 for the 1st 1/5th mile and $ 0.40 for each subsequent 1/5th mile.I think you have solved the question considering the following statement:$ 1.00 for the 1st 1/5th mile(over here you have considered) and $ 0.40 for each subsequent mile(over here you missed out).

$8.75/$.40 = bit more than 21 tells us the mileage for the rest of the journey.

Only choice (A) is more than 20, so we confidently pick it without doing any further calculations. If we needed to be more precise, the answer would be:

8.75/.40 + .2

I think the answer will be (8.75/0.40)*0.2 + 0.2
What-say??

Even still,no answer choice matches with the solution.I guess some typo error or wrong answer choices in the question.

Stuart Kovinsky wrote:

harsh.champ wrote:
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You're right! I calculated miles rather than .2s of a mile. You're also right in that there's no answer even close to the right one, which is just over 4.5 miles.

We also could have made the math easier by just converting to miles, since the answers are so far apart:

40 cents for each 1/5 of a mile = 2.00 for each mile; 8.75/2 = 4.375, 4.375 + .2 = 4.575 miles total.

That's why I took a new variable kile for my convenience.
In questions like these,where I find that the test-setter want us to fall in some trap,I like to assign some single variable to any set of complex variables.[ Over here, it was quite simple:1/5th of a mile = kile ,but in some situations you can be faced with complex variables [like in one of my post,Ian Stewart(an instructor) had suggested replacing 1/x=a , 1/y=b , 1/z=c https://www.beatthegmat.com/one-of-the-t ... 51647.html ]
I find that by applying such arbiter suppositions,the question appears quite simple.Moreover, solving the equations also seems easy and less cumbersome.

Aman verma wrote:First of all I would like to thank everybody to have participated in the quiz and provided their invaluable views. I hope you all will continue to help me and guide me through my queries.

Now, regarding the answer choices they are 100% accurate. Even I was bit confused at the outset as none of my answers reached above 6. So the most plausible solution to this problem is :

This is an Infinite geometric progression series Question :

Let the total distance be x miles.Then 1/5.x = First 1/5th mile

Now 1+ (x/5)(0.4)+(0.4)^2.(x/5)+....................... =9.75

1 + 0.4(x/5)[ 1 + (0.4)^2+.........................] = 9.75

1+ 0.40(x/5)[ 1/(1-0.4)] = 9.75 Formula for infinite G.P [ a/(1-r) ]


1 +2/3.x=9.75

x= 13.12 [ approximately]

This is the closest answer I am able to come up with.If anybody feels otherwise please give their valuable comments on this.

Now 1+ (x/5)(0.4)+(0.4)^2.(x/5)+....................... =9.75 ----------{line 1}

1 + 0.4(x/5)[ 1 + (0.4)^2+.........................] = 9.75 ----------{line 2}

Aman verma wrote:I have made the small correction pointed out.
Now in an infinite geometric series the series goes on like this :
a+ ar+ ar^2..................................... . And if anybody notice carefully , the question do lend itself to an infinite Geometric series in which case it do works as given above a+ ar+ ar^2.............................. .Please observe the structure of the question ;it do appears to be a fit case for an infinite geometric series.

However, if anybody feels otherwise please provide an explanation of his/her views

Hey Aman,
Check the line I have bold-faced above.Now,look carefully at the red portion.
According to you for the 2nd subsequent (1/5)th of a mile,he will charge 0.4^2.
Now,it should be 0.4 only ,not 0.4^2.Just think it out practically,the normal autos also work on the same formula as described in the question.
And thus for the subsequent any number of 1/5th mile,it will not be 0.4^2,0.4^3.......... Just plain 0.4.