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Uri: Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts; Posts: 229; Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:56 am; Thanked: 8 times; GMAT Score:700

by Uri » Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:50 am

Despite protests from some waste-disposal companies, state health officials have ordered the levels of bacteria in seawater at popular beaches to be measured and that the results be published.
A) the levels of bacteria in seawater at popular beaches to be measured and that the results be
B) that seawater at popular beaches should be measured for their levels of bacteria, with the results being.
C) the measure of levels of bacteria in seawater at popular beaches and the results to be
D) seawater measured at popular beaches for levels of bacteria, with their results
E) that the levels of bacteria in seawater at popular beaches be measured and the results.

OA: [spoiler](E)[/spoiler]

But I canceled this option thinking that 'be' is required at the end. Can you please give your opinion?

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by gmat740 » Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:20 pm

I thought it to be C
I don't know how E comes

this question has been asked but no proper conclusion for OA

https://www.beatthegmat.com/sc-214-t1209.html

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by iamcste » Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:32 pm

gmat740 wrote:I thought it to be C
I don't know how E comes

this question has been asked but no proper conclusion for OA

https://www.beatthegmat.com/sc-214-t1209.html

Dude, Its subjunctive case

Ordered should be followed by that...B and E

we need "be" and should is never present in case of subjunctive

If you need more info, refer Manhattans Sentence correction guide or search any of my posts related to subjunctive..I have written many explanations regarding them

Basically, you see few words like "order", "recommend" ...you come to know that this is a subjunctive, immediately be on a look out for "that" and "be" refrain from should.

I believe we have 2/3 qtns specifically on subjunctive case in OG

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by cramya » Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:11 pm

Karan,
In addition to the explanation provided by Imcste I would like to add one more thing:

If u read C it will convey an ambigous menaing that "state health officials have ordered the measure of levels of bacteria in seawater at popular beaches . This does not make logical sense.

Be measured and Be pusblished are also logical and structurally similar making it the right parallelism.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
CR

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by gmat740 » Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:19 pm

Thanks Cramya and Iamcste

I went through the some of the post related to Subjunctive mood.

it helped me a lot

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by iamcste » Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:20 pm

gmat740 wrote:Thanks Cramya and Iamcste

I went through the some of the post related to Subjunctive mood.

it helped me a lot

Great it helped!!

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yeloaw: Senior | Next Rank: 100 Posts; Posts: 39; Joined: Mon Apr 06, 2009 1:25 pm; Thanked: 1 times

by yeloaw » Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:15 am

Can someone confirm why A is wrong?

We have a subjunctive mood here, which means the possibility of something occurring.

So A is incorrect because "to be" would indicate a definite action for the future.

Is that correct?

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by iamcste » Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:36 am

yeloaw wrote:Can someone confirm why A is wrong?

We have a subjunctive mood here, which means the possibility of something occurring.

So A is incorrect because "to be" would indicate a definite action for the future.

Is that correct?

subjnctive or any clause fot that matter is introduced by that. A misses that. You dont even have to look further for A unless you have leading time in the exam or you are skeptical.

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Uri: Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts; Posts: 229; Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:56 am; Thanked: 8 times; GMAT Score:700

by Uri » Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:13 am

thanks, everybody for participation.

but...does the presence of "order" always make a sentence in subjunctive mood?

eg. "the judge ordered the prisoner to appear again after two days."

obviously this is not in subjunctive mood and i don't think this is wrong either. I would have undoubtedly favoured (E) had there been an additional "be" present at the end of the choice. i.e. "that the levels of bacteria in seawater at popular beaches be measured and the results be". is this unnecessary?

My logic:

(A): it seems that the state official have ordered the levels of bacteria to get themselves measured. this is quite absurd.

(B): an order means an order. so, presence of "should" makes no sense. MGMAT SC guide says that "the court ruled that the plaintiff should pay full damages" is wrong and here "should" has to be replaced by "must" or something similar.

(C): issue with parallelism??? not sure

(D): who is "their" referring to?

(E): i am not sure whether we need a "be" at the end to make it parallel. please help me.

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by sarthak » Fri Mar 12, 2010 6:07 am

Hi all,
Still no final verdict on this. Can anyone shed some more light ?

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