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Use of With to modify main clause - kaplan 800 and OG

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by agarwalva » Wed May 16, 2012 2:12 pm
The basic needs of the average cat are simple and largely inexpensive: food, water, affection, and shelter, and occasional visits to the veterinarian.

(A) and occasional visits to the veterinarian
(B) with occasional veterinarian visits
(C) with occasional visits to the veterinarian
(D) yet occasionally visiting the veterinarian
(E) but some occasional visits to the veterinarian are needed

OA C source kaplan 800

explain why not A




A similar OG Question
The diet of the ordinary Greek in classical times was largely vegetarian-vegetables, fresh cheese, oatmeal, and meal cakes, and meat rarely.

(A) and meat rarely
(B) and meat was rare
(C) with meat as rare
(D) meat a rarity
(E) with meat as a rarity

OA: E
Last edited by agarwalva on Thu May 24, 2012 4:51 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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by patanjali.purpose » Wed May 16, 2012 2:47 pm
agarwalva wrote:The basic needs of the average cat are simple and largely inexpensive: food, water, affection, and shelter, and occasional visits to the veterinarian.

(A) and occasional visits to the veterinarian
(C) with occasional visits to the veterinarian
OA C source kaplan 800; explain why not A
when we connect 2 or more elements with AND ,then elements should be parallel - Here "food, water, affection, and shelter" ARE ALL NOUNS ,whereas 'occasional visits to the veterinarian' is verb phrase. Therefore A is incorrect

C - use of WITH converts it into a prep phrase and that modify the previous clause. CORRECT
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by joshmachine » Wed May 16, 2012 2:55 pm
This is case of nested parallelism.
food, water, affection, and shelter, and occasional visits
1st four terms are inexpensive needs, 5th is not part of the list but should be parallel to previous group
A, B, C, and D, and E -- wrong
A, B, C, and D, with E -- correct

IMO: C
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by agarwalva » Thu May 24, 2012 9:08 am
Please can some one explain why "occasional visits to the veterinarian' is verb phrase
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by agarwalva » Thu May 24, 2012 4:50 pm
A similar OG Question
The diet of the ordinary Greek in classical times was largely vegetarian-vegetables, fresh cheese, oatmeal, and meal cakes, and meat rarely.

(A) and meat rarely
(B) and meat was rare
(C) with meat as rare
(D) meat a rarity
(E) with meat as a rarity

OA: E
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by GMATGuruNY » Thu May 24, 2012 5:24 pm
agarwalva wrote:The basic needs of the average cat are simple and largely inexpensive: food, water, affection, and shelter, and occasional visits to the veterinarian.

(A) and occasional visits to the veterinarian
(B) with occasional veterinarian visits
(C) with occasional visits to the veterinarian
(D) yet occasionally visiting the veterinarian
(E) but some occasional visits to the veterinarian are needed

OA C source kaplan 800

explain why not [spoiler]A[/spoiler

A similar OG Question
The diet of the ordinary Greek in classical times was largely vegetarian-vegetables, fresh cheese, oatmeal, and meal cakes, and meat rarely.

(A) and meat rarely
(B) and meat was rare
(C) with meat as rare
(D) meat a rarity
(E) with meat as a rarity

OA: E
In each sentence, notice the position of AND:
The basic needs are simple: food, water, affection, AND shelter.
The diet was largely vegetarian -- vegetables, fresh cheese, oatmeal, AND meal cakes.

The placement of AND signals the END of each list.
Since each list is COMPLETE, it cannot be extended by another AND.

Instead, additional information must come in the form of a MODIFIER:
The basic needs are simple: food, water, affection, and shelter, WITH OCCASIONAL VISITS TO THE VETERINARIAN.
The diet was largely vegetarian -- vegetables, fresh cheese, oatmeal, and meal cakes, WITH MEAT A RARITY.
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by Bill@VeritasPrep » Thu May 24, 2012 6:30 pm
patanjali.purpose wrote:,whereas 'occasional visits to the veterinarian' is verb phrase.
How so? "Visits" is a noun there.
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by lunarpower » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:55 am
Mitch wrote:
GMATGuruNY wrote:In each sentence, notice the position of AND:
The basic needs are simple: food, water, affection, AND shelter.
The diet was largely vegetarian -- vegetables, fresh cheese, oatmeal, AND meal cakes.

The placement of AND signals the END of each list.
Since each list is COMPLETE, it cannot be extended by another AND.

Instead, additional information must come in the form of a MODIFIER
this is a good summary; i have relatively little to add to it.

i do, however, want to emphasize the meaning of this sort of construction.

note -- in both of the examples above -- that the "with" modifier is used to add an idea that is less essential than the other ideas in the list.

i.e., if you were actually adding an element that was just as important as the other elements in the list, then this construction would be inappropriate; in that case, you should include that element in parallel with anything else.

ex:
the verbal section consists of sentence correction, critical reasoning, and reading comprehension
--> correct
the verbal section consists of sentence correction and critical reasoning, with additional questions in reading comprehension
--> inappropriate, since RC is not a less important add-on.
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