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ashblog02: Junior | Next Rank: 30 Posts; Posts: 25; Joined: Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:25 pm; Thanked: 2 times

by ashblog02 » Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:50 pm

. Economic considerations colour every aspect of international dealings, and nations
are just like individuals in that the lender sets the terms of its dealings with the
borrower. That is why a nation that owes money to another nation cannot be world
leader.
The reasoning in the passage assumes which one of the following?
(A) A nation that does not lend to any other nation cannot be a world leader.
(B) A nation that can set the terms of its dealings with other nations is certain
to be a world leader.
(C) A nation that has the terms of its dealings with another action set by that
nation cannot be a world leader.
(D) A nation that is a world leader can borrow from another nation as long as that
other nation does not set the terms of the dealings between the two nations.
(E) A nation that has no dealings with any other nation cannot be world leader.
OA after discussion

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by rkanthilal » Sun Nov 21, 2010 6:50 pm

IMO C

P1: Economic considerations color every aspect of international dealings.
P2: Nations are just like individuals in that the lender sets the terms of its dealings with the borrower
C1: A nation that owes money to another nation cannot be world leader.

The conclusion is "a nation that owes money to another nation cannot be world leader". In the passage the conclusion is preceded by the words, "That is why". This is referring to the previous sentence, "Nations are just like individuals in that the lender sets the terms of its dealings with the borrower". This is the reason the author gives for why a nation that owes money to another nation cannot be a world leader. They cannot be a world leader because they are beholden to the terms of the lender nation.

Question Stem: The reasoning in the passage assumes which one of the following?

The assumption is that any nation that is beholden to the terms of another nation cannot be a world leader.

(A) A nation that does not lend to any other nation cannot be a world leader. Incorrect. The conclusion is that nations that borrow cannot be world leaders. This answer is about nations that do not lend. We need an answer that provides an assumption about nations that borrow.

(B) A nation that can set the terms of its dealings with other nations is certain to be a world leader. Incorrect. This answer states that nations that lend are certain to be a world leaders. Similar to (A), this answer discusses nations that lend. This passage is about nations that borrow.

(C) A nation that has the terms of its dealings with another action set by that nation cannot be a world leader. Correct. This answer states the assumption behind the conclusion. This answer states that a nation that is beholden to the terms of another nation cannot be a world leader.

(D) A nation that is a world leader can borrow from another nation as long as that other nation does not set the terms of the dealings between the two nations. Incorrect. The passage doesn't discuss this scenario. The conclusion specifically states that "a nation that borrows from another nation cannot be a world leader". This means any nation that borrows cannot be a world leader. This answer provides a scenario in which a nation borrows and sets their own terms. Since the possibility of this happening is not addressed in the passage, this cannot be an assumption of the conclusion.

(E) A nation that has no dealings with any other nation cannot be world leader. Incorrect. According to the passage a nation cannot be a world leader if they borrow from another nation. Therefore, it is possible for a nation that has no dealings with any other nation to be a world leader since they are not borrowing from other nations.

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by missionGMAT007 » Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:35 am

IMO C

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by rishab1988 » Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:28 am

IMO C

Conclusion :a nation that owes money to another nation cannot be world leader.

Evidence : nations are just like individuals in that the lender sets the terms of its dealings with the borrower

Gap : nation that owes and hence allows other nations to set terms of dealings cannot be a world leader.

A) Does not lend does not imply borrowing.Therefore,incorrect

B) we cannot be sure.The argument makes no claim about nations who set terms of dealings with other nations. (also it is too strong-the word certain).

C) correct-matches the paraphrase of the gap

D) irrelevant

E) irrelevant

What is the OA?

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by ashforgmat » Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:59 am

C ...IMO...

whats the OA?

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by mundasingh123 » Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:22 am

Can You pls reveal the source ?

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by DarkKnight » Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:31 am

IMO it should be C.

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by BellTheGMAT » Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:48 pm

ashblog02 wrote:. Economic considerations colour every aspect of international dealings, and nations are just like individuals in that the lender sets the terms of its dealings with the borrower. That is why a nation that owes money to another nation cannot be world leader.
The reasoning in the passage assumes which one of the following?
(A) A nation that does not lend to any other nation cannot be a world leader.
(B) A nation that can set the terms of its dealings with other nations is certain to be a world leader.
(C) A nation that has the terms of its dealings with another action set by that nation cannot be a world leader.
(D) A nation that is a world leader can borrow from another nation as long as that other nation does not set the terms of the dealings between the two nations.
(E) A nation that has no dealings with any other nation cannot be world leader.

OA after discussion

IMO B
I feel C is just the repetition of the conclusion....

Conclusion - a nation that owes money to another nation ( (borrower) cannot be world leader.
Premise - lender sets the terms of its dealings with the borrower

A -> B => not B -> not A

OA plz...

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by DarkKnight » Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:01 am

Can we please get the OA for the question?

Thanks.

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by kg » Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:18 am

ashblog02 wrote:. Economic considerations colour every aspect of international dealings, and nations
are just like individuals in that the lender sets the terms of its dealings with the
borrower. That is why a nation that owes money to another nation cannot be world
leader.
The reasoning in the passage assumes which one of the following?
(A) A nation that does not lend to any other nation cannot be a world leader.
(B) A nation that can set the terms of its dealings with other nations is certain
to be a world leader.
(C) A nation that has the terms of its dealings with another action set by that
nation cannot be a world leader.
(D) A nation that is a world leader can borrow from another nation as long as that
other nation does not set the terms of the dealings between the two nations.
(E) A nation that has no dealings with any other nation cannot be world leader.
OA after discussion

Conclusion- Nation that owes money to another can't be a world leader.
premise- Nations behave like individuals where in lender defines terms

A. Irrelevant- Nothing is mentioned about who can be a world leader.
B. Too strong. Nothing is mentioned about nations who can certainly be world leader.
C. Correct. It has to be the assumption. As argument depends upon lender defining terms, and hence borrower nation getting dictated by lender terms, and hence making borrower nation ineligible for becoming a world leader.
D. Irrelevant, nothing is mentioned about who can be a world leader.
E. Out of scope.

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by kg » Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:20 am

ashblog02 wrote:. Economic considerations colour every aspect of international dealings, and nations
are just like individuals in that the lender sets the terms of its dealings with the
borrower. That is why a nation that owes money to another nation cannot be world
leader.
The reasoning in the passage assumes which one of the following?
(A) A nation that does not lend to any other nation cannot be a world leader.
(B) A nation that can set the terms of its dealings with other nations is certain
to be a world leader.
(C) A nation that has the terms of its dealings with another action set by that
nation cannot be a world leader.
(D) A nation that is a world leader can borrow from another nation as long as that
other nation does not set the terms of the dealings between the two nations.
(E) A nation that has no dealings with any other nation cannot be world leader.
OA after discussion

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by vatsalroxy » Fri Jan 28, 2011 8:28 am

Why not B? too strong doesnt mean it to be always wrong !! perhaps thats an additional supporting premise that can qualify the conclusion. isnt it ?

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by badpoem » Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:27 am

IMO (C).

(A) A nation that does not lend to any other nation cannot be a world leader. --> Nothing stated in the passage.

(B) A nation that can set the terms of its dealings with other nations is certain to be a world leader. --> contrary.

(C) A nation that has the terms of its dealings with another action set by that nation cannot be a world leader. -->bingo!

(D) A nation that is a world leader can borrow from another nation as long as that other nation does not set the terms of the dealings between the two nations. --> not interested in what a nation does after it becomes a world leader.

(E) A nation that has no dealings with any other nation cannot be world leader --> contrary.

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by Testluv » Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:00 pm

vatsalroxy wrote:Why not B? too strong doesnt mean it to be always wrong !! perhaps thats an additional supporting premise that can qualify the conclusion. isnt it ?

The author is making a conclusion about what cannot be the case ("...cannot be world leader"). Accordingly, he must be assuming something about what "cannnot" be the case (i.e., choice C) rather than something that is "certain" to be the case (i.e., choice B).

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by mourinhogmat1 » Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:09 pm

Is answer C worded wrongly?

(C) A nation that has the terms of its dealings with another action set by that nation cannot be a world leader.

Should it read:
(C) A nation that has the terms of its dealings with another NATION set by that nation cannot be a world leader.

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