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by Night reader » Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:55 pm
A run-on is a sentence error caused by running one sentence into another, without putting any punctuation in between.

Examples:
We all like the Verbal forum we all like SC posts (Incorrect)

We all like the Verbal forum. We all like SC posts (Correct)

We all like the Verbal forum; we like SC posts (Correct)

We all like the Verbal forum, and we all like SC posts (Correct)

We all like the Verbal forum; however we like the most SC posts (Correct)

We all like the Verbal forum - SC posts (Correct)

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atulmangal wrote:can anyone explain "run on sentence error" types with example...???
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by atulmangal » Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:25 pm
Night reader wrote:A run-on is a sentence error caused by running one sentence into another, without putting any punctuation in between.

Examples:
We all like the Verbal forum we all like SC posts (Incorrect)

We all like the Verbal forum. We all like SC posts (Correct)

We all like the Verbal forum; we like SC posts (Correct)

We all like the Verbal forum, and we all like SC posts (Correct)

We all like the Verbal forum; however we like the most SC posts (Correct)

We all like the Verbal forum - SC posts (Correct)

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atulmangal wrote:can anyone explain "run on sentence error" types with example...???
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by AIM GMAT » Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:39 pm
Wow !!! Thanks night reader .
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by Jim@Grockit » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:39 am
Night reader wrote:A run-on is a sentence error caused by running one sentence into another, without putting any punctuation in between.
This is not true.

A run-on sentence (also called a comma splice) joins two independent clauses -- two things that could stand alone as a sentence on their own -- without a semicolon or coordinating conjunction. The examples Night reader gave are fine, except they do not include this one:

We all like the Verbal forum, we all like SC posts (Incorrect)


Here we have punctuation, but it is still wrong, because both parts are independent clauses.
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by gmat_perfect » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:51 am
Night reader wrote:A run-on is a sentence error caused by running one sentence into another, without putting any punctuation in between.

Examples:
We all like the Verbal forum we all like SC posts (Incorrect)

We all like the Verbal forum. We all like SC posts (Correct)

We all like the Verbal forum; we like SC posts (Correct)

We all like the Verbal forum, and we all like SC posts (Correct)

We all like the Verbal forum; however we like the most SC posts (Correct)

We all like the Verbal forum - SC posts (Correct)

:)






atulmangal wrote:can anyone explain "run on sentence error" types with example...???
Thanks for such a nice post. The following sentence needs a simple correction. It may be a silly mistake.

We all like the Verbal forum; however we like the most SC posts (Correct)

The following is a list of conjunctive adverbs:

accordingly, furthermore, moreover, similarly,
also, hence, namely, still,
anyway, however, nevertheless, then,
besides, incidentally, next, thereafter,
certainly, indeed, nonetheless, therefore,
consequently, instead, now, thus,
finally, likewise, otherwise, undoubtedly,
further, meanwhile.

When we join two clauses with conjunctive adverbs, the following structure is followed:

IC + Semicolon + Conjunctive Adverb + COMMA + IC.

Example:

I went to new market; however, he was watching TV.

the 6th sentence of Night Reader should be as follows:


We all like the Verbal forum; however, we like the most SC posts (Correct)

Thanks Night Reader.
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by atulmangal » Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:05 am
gmat_perfect wrote:
Night reader wrote:A run-on is a sentence error caused by running one sentence into another, without putting any punctuation in between.

Examples:
We all like the Verbal forum we all like SC posts (Incorrect)

We all like the Verbal forum. We all like SC posts (Correct)

We all like the Verbal forum; we like SC posts (Correct)

We all like the Verbal forum, and we all like SC posts (Correct)

We all like the Verbal forum; however we like the most SC posts (Correct)

We all like the Verbal forum - SC posts (Correct)

:)






atulmangal wrote:can anyone explain "run on sentence error" types with example...???
Thanks for such a nice post. The following sentence needs a simple correction. It may be a silly mistake.

We all like the Verbal forum; however we like the most SC posts (Correct)

The following is a list of conjunctive adverbs:

accordingly, furthermore, moreover, similarly,
also, hence, namely, still,
anyway, however, nevertheless, then,
besides, incidentally, next, thereafter,
certainly, indeed, nonetheless, therefore,
consequently, instead, now, thus,
finally, likewise, otherwise, undoubtedly,
further, meanwhile.

When we join two clauses with conjunctive adverbs, the following structure is followed:

IC + Semicolon + Conjunctive Adverb + COMMA + IC.

Example:

I went to new market; however, he was watching TV.

the 6th sentence of Night Reader should be as follows:


We all like the Verbal forum; however, we like the most SC posts (Correct)

Thanks Night Reader.
Thanks Jim and Gmat_perfect
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by Jim@Grockit » Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:16 am
And gmat_perfect caught a detail I didn't.
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by Night reader » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:29 pm
what do you mean not true?
Independent clauses are supposed to be sentences when separated. Independent clauses have their main subjects and verbs. What's not true in here?

guys, one more thing - I am not arguing mastership of English language, which is foreign language for me as well as other three languages I speak - Russian, Persian, German.

@gmat-perfect, @Jim-Grockit please judge me in your own merits ... I wouldn't sneak into books/web-sites/resources/dictionaries before posting "fine" lines in the post - these were examples; besides I am not signing as an expert.

Jim@Grockit wrote:
Night reader wrote:A run-on is a sentence error caused by running one sentence into another, without putting any punctuation in between.
This is not true.

A run-on sentence (also called a comma splice) joins two independent clauses -- two things that could stand alone as a sentence on their own -- without a semicolon or coordinating conjunction. The examples Night reader gave are fine, except they do not include this one:

We all like the Verbal forum, we all like SC posts (Incorrect)


Here we have punctuation, but it is still wrong, because both parts are independent clauses.
My knowledge frontiers came to evolve the GMATPill's methods - the credited study means to boost the Verbal competence. I really like their videos, especially for RC, CR and SC. You do check their study methods at https://www.gmatpill.com
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by tetura84 » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:59 pm
AFAIK, run-on sentences cannot be joined with COMMA, but can be joined with SEMICOLON.
Correct me if I am wrong.

We all like the Verbal forum, we like the most SC posts (Incorrect)
We all like the Verbal forum; we like the most SC posts (CORRECT ??)

Is it correct? Or we need some conjunction?
We all like the Verbal forum; but, we like the most SC posts (CORRECT ??)
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by Night reader » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:05 pm
If you include conjunction, that's it - eliminate ";" put comma instead.
tetura84 wrote:AFAIK, run-on sentences cannot be joined with COMMA, but can be joined with SEMICOLON.
Correct me if I am wrong.

We all like the Verbal forum, we like the most SC posts (Incorrect)
We all like the Verbal forum; we like the most SC posts (CORRECT ??)

Is it correct? Or we need some conjunction?
We all like the Verbal forum; but, we like the most SC posts (CORRECT ??)
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by gmat_perfect » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:06 am
Let me explain the whole:

First: What is run on sentence?

A run-on sentence is a sentence in which two or more independent clauses (i.e., complete sentences) are joined without appropriate punctuation or conjunction.

Example:

I was reading GMAT he was playing football. -----A run on sentence.

Second: How to overcome run on sentence?

Answer:

There are five ways to fix run on sentence:

1. Period PLUS Capital:

Example:
I was reading GMAT. He was playing football.

2. COMMA + FANBOYS:

FANBOYS = For, And, Nor, But, Or, Yet, So.

Example:
I was reading GMAT, and he was playing football.

3. IC + Semicolon + IC:

Example:
I was reading GMAT; he was playing football.

4. IC + Semicolon+ Conjunctive Adverb + COMMA + IC:

Example:

I was reading GMAT; however, he was playing football.

5. Subordinating:

Commonly used list of subordinating conjunctions:
After, how, till ( or 'til), although, if, unless, as, inasmuch, until, as if, in order that, when, as long as, lest, whenever, as much as, now that, where, as soon as, provided (that), wherever, as though, since, while, because, so that, before, than, even if, that, even though, though.

Example:
When I was reading GMAT, he was playing football.

@Reader,
Your ideas are fine. please go on..
I could not understand "not true".

Your another question:

Independent clauses are supposed to be sentences when separated.

==> It is no supposed to be. It is 100% sure that independent clauses are complete sentence, and without independent clause no sentence is complete sentence.
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by Jim@Grockit » Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:30 am
Night reader wrote:what do you mean not true?
Independent clauses are supposed to be sentences when separated. Independent clauses have their main subjects and verbs. What's not true in here?

guys, one more thing - I am not arguing mastership of English language, which is foreign language for me as well as other three languages I speak - Russian, Persian, German.

@gmat-perfect, @Jim-Grockit please judge me in your own merits ... I wouldn't sneak into books/web-sites/resources/dictionaries before posting "fine" lines in the post - these were examples; besides I am not signing as an expert.

Jim@Grockit wrote:
Night reader wrote:A run-on is a sentence error caused by running one sentence into another, without putting any punctuation in between.
This is not true.

A run-on sentence (also called a comma splice) joins two independent clauses -- two things that could stand alone as a sentence on their own -- without a semicolon or coordinating conjunction. The examples Night reader gave are fine, except they do not include this one:

We all like the Verbal forum, we all like SC posts (Incorrect)


Here we have punctuation, but it is still wrong, because both parts are independent clauses.
Ah, I am sorry, I think I was not clear -- when I said your examples were "fine", I meant that they were "good" -- you gave many good examples of different kinds run-on sentences! What was wrong was your explanation; lack of punctuation is not what makes a sentence a run-on. If you have a comma but no conjunction, it's still a run-on.
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by Night reader » Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:32 am
thank you gmat-perfect, I've regained hope for SC in GMAT.
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