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by force5 » Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:13 pm
Visby is the largest city on the Swedish island of Gotland; arguably the best-preserved medieval town in Scandinavia, and has become a World Heritage Site..

A. arguably the best-preserved medieval town in Scandinavia, and has become a World Heritage Site.
B. it is arguably the best-preserved medieval town in Scandinavia, and, as a result of this, has become a World
Heritage Site.
C. arguably the best-preserved medieval town in Scandinavia, it has become a World Heritage Site.
D. it has become a World Heritage Site, and is arguably the best-preserved medieval town in Scandinavia.
E. is arguably the best-preserved medieval town in Scandinavia, a World Heritage Site.

OA C

i am stuck between C and D. i Dont think either should be correct.

choice C- what is IT referring to? Can it refer to Visby?? The underlined sentence should be a independent clause. How can IT refer back to the subject of the first clause. so my question is can that happen?

Choice D- what is IT referring to? and if "IT" in C is referring to Visby then "it" in D should also refer to Visby.
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by clock60 » Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:42 pm
imo C,
A,B and E are obvoiusly wrong,
in D we don`t need comma before and, as
it has become......and is.......to me right version ( without comma)
as for antecedent for it in C, it can be town
C)arguably the best-preserved medieval town in Scandinavia, it has become a World Heritage Site.

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by force5 » Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:22 pm
so it means that in C.... "it" is referring to "medieval town" and not visby. shouldn't "It" refer to Visby??

In D- a comma before "and" should have no value since its a coordinate conjunction hence that cannot be a critical error. The error must lie in the pronoun antecedent or parallelism.

i am getting confused in one concept. Here it is--

Independent Clause; It ......... Can this "it" refer to the subject of the first independent clause??

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by MAAJ » Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:39 pm
IMO D

A semicolon is most commonly used to link (in a single sentence) two independent clauses that are closely related in thought. If they are independent, they must make sense by themself...

Visby is the largest city on the Swedish island of Gotland. Makes sense...
It (Visby) has become a World Heritage Site, and [it] is arguably the best-preserved medieval town in Scandinavia. Makes sense...
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by force5 » Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:02 pm
thanks but as you said that there are 2 independent clauses in D. The moment "IT" refers to Visby (from the 1st clause) the second becomes a dependent clause and we wont need a ;


could i please ask an expert to clear this doubt, In all either I'm missing a point or this question is not a good GMAT Question. however the source is score800 but i am not convinced by their answer.

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by MAAJ » Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:20 pm
Yeah... we need an expert here but according to the rule that I found:

A semicolon is most commonly used to link (in a single sentence) two independent clauses that are closely related in thought.

Both clauses are grammatically correct and make sense by themselft... although "It" makes reference to the first clause.

I'm still going for (D)
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by saurabh_maths » Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:34 pm
Its not like that you cannot have 'it' in the independent clause.

basically ';' is used to join two closely related independent clauses. and clause shd have a subject and a verb.

For eg : Mark is a great artist; he painted monalisa. is also correct.

so in this case D shd be correct !

This is my understanding but expert opinion is always appreciated !:-)

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by singh181 » Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:43 pm
COMMA + AND joins 2 independent clauses.
In D, both the parts have independent ideas, but second part lacks a subject after the comma.

Please let me know if my thinking is not correct.

IMO C.
force5 wrote:Visby is the largest city on the Swedish island of Gotland; arguably the best-preserved medieval town in Scandinavia, and has become a World Heritage Site..

A. arguably the best-preserved medieval town in Scandinavia, and has become a World Heritage Site.
B. it is arguably the best-preserved medieval town in Scandinavia, and, as a result of this, has become a World
Heritage Site.
C. arguably the best-preserved medieval town in Scandinavia, it has become a World Heritage Site.
D. it has become a World Heritage Site, and is arguably the best-preserved medieval town in Scandinavia.
E. is arguably the best-preserved medieval town in Scandinavia, a World Heritage Site.

OA C

i am stuck between C and D. i Dont think either should be correct.

choice C- what is IT referring to? Can it refer to Visby?? The underlined sentence should be a independent clause. How can IT refer back to the subject of the first clause. so my question is can that happen?

Choice D- what is IT referring to? and if "IT" in C is referring to Visby then "it" in D should also refer to Visby.
Please help??

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by AIM GMAT » Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:55 am
IMO D.

By the way what is the OA and the source ?
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by force5 » Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:45 am
the OA is C and the source is score 800.

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by AIM GMAT » Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:47 am
force5 wrote:the OA is C and the source is score 800.
Is there any official explanation ?
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by force5 » Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:09 am
yes there is. It reads- " choices (D) and (E) do not indicate that the reason Visby is a world Heritage site is because of its medieval preservation. Only (c) corrects the original problems, indicates the cause of the world Heritage marker and maintains concision. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: I got stymied.

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by MAAJ » Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:18 pm
force5 wrote:yes there is. It reads- " choices (D) and (E) do not indicate that the reason Visby is a world Heritage site is because of its medieval preservation. Only (c) corrects the original problems, indicates the cause of the world Heritage marker and maintains concision. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: I got stymied.
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Visby is the largest city on the Swedish island of Gotland; arguably the best-preserved medieval town in Scandinavia, it has become a World Heritage Site

UNDERLINED part modifies Gotland right...? this because of the Noun Modifier Touch Rule

How is "arguably the best-preserved medieval town in Scandinavia, it has become a World Heritage Site" and independent clause?

How is "it" NOT AMBIGUOUS? We have Visby, Gotland, and Scandinavia...???

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by atulmangal » Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:19 pm
MAAJ wrote:
force5 wrote:yes there is. It reads- " choices (D) and (E) do not indicate that the reason Visby is a world Heritage site is because of its medieval preservation. Only (c) corrects the original problems, indicates the cause of the world Heritage marker and maintains concision. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: I got stymied.
:shock: ...

Visby is the largest city on the Swedish island of Gotland; arguably the best-preserved medieval town in Scandinavia, it has become a World Heritage Site

UNDERLINED part modifies Gotland right...? this because of the Noun Modifier Touch Rule

How is "arguably the best-preserved medieval town in Scandinavia, it has become a World Heritage Site" and independent clause?

How is "it" NOT AMBIGUOUS? We have Visby, Gotland, and Scandinavia...???

:cry: ...
I know the rules of semicolon thats y drop A,C,E.....but i still wanna know y op B is incorrect????
wats wrong with B...since the town is best preserved thats y it has become world heritage site...
wats wrong in the the meaning????

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by ankurmit » Fri Mar 11, 2011 2:36 am
IMO D

semicolon is used to connect 2 independent clauses.
Only D has both the clauses independent
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