Dude..that was funny..mmslf75 wrote:huh ?!papgust wrote:mmslf,
Please don't "quote" a mighty long text. It's too frustrating to keep scrolling the page to read posts.
You could quote specifically if you want to point something.
Then dont scroll simple, Kidding!!
Will take care in future !!
The first version is definitely correct; growing is an adjective that modifies "number", which is perfect.hk_4u wrote:Hi Stuart
few queries related to this question
1 - the growing number of people who blah blah
VS
the number of people who purchased tickets are growing
My initial impression was that the growing number of people is wrong. Since the question does not tests this, it doesn't really matter. But are both forms correct and acceptable ?
This usage is usually wrong on the GMAT because of how it's used; it's not inherently incorrect, but often turns out to be wrong for modification/agreement reasons on the test (most people use it incorrectly in everyday life, which is why the GMAT models that incorrect usage).2 - usage of the fact that - I have read on a few threads that this usage is always wrong in GMAT , your comments ?
If the parenthetical phrase (i.e. what's between the commas) is modifying "convinced", then "that" should come after the commas; if the parenthetical phrase is related to what comes after "that", then "that" needs to precede the commas.3 - Does the position of "that" really matters ? Again ,I feel it is not really tested as all other options have clear idiom or tense errors .
I feel both these forms are fine
officials are convinced,modifier, that many travelers ...
officials are convinced that ,modifier ,many travelers ...
Not sure what you mean by this last question!4 - The method of comparison is new for me. I haven't really seen any other question where 2 clauses are compared in such a way. Is it a common thing to do ?
when we say that "modifiers can be removed from the sentence", that's a grammatical statement. it does NOT mean that the meaning of the sentence will always be unchanged with the removal of modifiers! (think about it - if that were the case that modifiers never changed the meaning of the sentence, then there would be no reason for modifiers to exist.)hk_4u wrote:Is it really a comparison or just a modifier ? I didn't think of it as a modifier since modifiers can usually be removed from the sentence without much loss of meaning , here I felt this phrase is essential to the meaning of the sentence
Hi ,Stuart Kovinsky wrote:Great breakdown of the wrong answers! (A) should be the accredited choice.sulabh wrote:I think A is right.
Despite the growing number of people who purchase plane tickets online, airline executives are convinced that, just as one-third of bank customers still prefer human tellers to automatic teller machines, many travelers will still use travel agents.
A. growing number of people who purchase plane tickets online, airline executives are convinced that, just as one-third of bank customers still prefer human tellers to automatic teller machines, many travelers will
B. growing number of people who purchase plane tickets online, airline executives are convinced, just as one-third of bank customers still prefer human tellers to automatic teller machines, that many travelers would (misplaced)
C. growing number of people purchasing plane tickets online, airline executives are convinced, just as one-third of bank customers still prefer human tellers as compared to automatic teller machines, many travelers will (AKWARD and meaning is changed)
D. fact that the number of people purchasing plane tickets online is growing, airline executives are convinced, just as one-third of bank customers still prefer human tellers as compared to automatic teller machines, that many travelers would 9misplaced)
E. fact that the number of people who purchase plane tickets online are growing, airline executives are convinced that, just as one-third of bank customers still prefer human tellers compared with automatic teller machines, many travelers would
Can we have the OA ?
Hi ,Stuart Kovinsky wrote:Great breakdown of the wrong answers! (A) should be the accredited choice.sulabh wrote:I think A is right.
Despite the growing number of people who purchase plane tickets online, airline executives are convinced that, just as one-third of bank customers still prefer human tellers to automatic teller machines, many travelers will still use travel agents.
A. growing number of people who purchase plane tickets online, airline executives are convinced that, just as one-third of bank customers still prefer human tellers to automatic teller machines, many travelers will
B. growing number of people who purchase plane tickets online, airline executives are convinced, just as one-third of bank customers still prefer human tellers to automatic teller machines, that many travelers would (misplaced)
C. growing number of people purchasing plane tickets online, airline executives are convinced, just as one-third of bank customers still prefer human tellers as compared to automatic teller machines, many travelers will (AKWARD and meaning is changed)
D. fact that the number of people purchasing plane tickets online is growing, airline executives are convinced, just as one-third of bank customers still prefer human tellers as compared to automatic teller machines, that many travelers would 9misplaced)
E. fact that the number of people who purchase plane tickets online are growing, airline executives are convinced that, just as one-third of bank customers still prefer human tellers compared with automatic teller machines, many travelers would
Can we have the OA ?
you're right in this particular instance, but perhaps not for exactly the reason you've stated.girish3131 wrote:B'coz it's saying "CONVINCED" so no chance of using WOULD , which is a indicator of hypothetical condition.
when we are saying convonced then it's better to use WILL in place of WOULD
Thanks!
Please correct me if wrong...
Thanks!
netigen wrote:Despite the growing number of people who purchase plane tickets online, airline executives are convinced that, just as one-third of bank customers still prefer human tellers to automatic teller machines, many travelers will still use travel agents.
A. growing number of people who purchase plane tickets online, airline executives are convinced that, just as one-third of bank customers still prefer human tellers to automatic teller machines, many travelers will
B. growing number of people who purchase plane tickets online, airline executives are convinced, just as one-third of bank customers still prefer human tellers to automatic teller machines, that many travelers would
C. growing number of people purchasing plane tickets online, airline executives are convinced, just as one-third of bank customers still prefer human tellers as compared to automatic teller machines, many travelers will
D. fact that the number of people purchasing plane tickets online is growing, airline executives are convinced, just as one-third of bank customers still prefer human tellers as compared to automatic teller machines, that many travelers would
E. fact that the number of people who purchase plane tickets online are growing, airline executives are convinced that, just as one-third of bank customers still prefer human tellers compared with automatic teller machines, many travelers would
nope. this is context-based -- you have to decide whether the subject of the verb is the number itself (in which case the verb should be singular, since "number" is singular), or the people (in which case the verb should accordingly be plural).jerrykid wrote:For choice A, is there anything wrong with the verb "purchase"? I think it should be "purchases" as it follows the phrase "the (growing) number of (people)"?
prinit wrote:i think you've made a mistake in choosing your underlined part; the initial part that you have underlined is not a modifier. (if you like to classify things, it's just a noun phrase -- "number" is the noun, modified by the prepositional phrase "of people", which is in turn modified by "who purchase plane tickets online".)netigen wrote:Despite the growing number of people who purchase plane tickets online, airline executives are convinced that, just as one-third of bank customers still prefer human tellers to automatic teller machines, many travelers will still use travel agents.
Group modifiers - the tail part of the sentence is correctly modified by the very 1st part
on the other hand, if you underline that entire part, starting with "despite", then that's a subordinate clause which you could classify as a modifier of that last part.
when you have clauses that start with subordinating conjunctions such as "despite" or "because", though, it's generally not that useful to classify them as modifiers, since it's darn near impossible to misplace them. (by contrast, it's extremely important to be able to classify precisely what is being modified by shorter modifiers, such as "which...", because those modifiers are misplaced all the time.)
