Monkfish

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cbenk121: Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts; Posts: 202; Joined: Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:34 pm; Thanked: 15 times; GMAT Score:760

by cbenk121 » Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:10 pm

There are no legal limits, as there are for cod and haddock, on the size of monkfish that can be caught, a circumstance that contributes to their depletion through overfishing.

(A) There are no legal limits, as there are for cod and haddock, on the size of monkfish that can be caught, a circumstance that contributes to their depletion through overfishing.
(B) There are no legal limits on the size of monkfish that can be caught, unlike cod or haddock, a circumstance that contributes to depleting them because they are being overfished.
(C) There are legal limits on the size of cod and haddock that can be caught, but not for monkfish, which contributes to its depletion through overfishing.
(D) Unlike cod and haddock, there are no legal size limits on catching monkfish, which contributes to its depletion by being overfished.
(E) Unlike catching cod and haddock, there are no legal size limits on catching monkfish, contributing to their depletion because they are overfished.

OA: A

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by punitkaur » Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:06 am

I don't see anything wrong with A. But I was confused between A & C. I chose C as I thought it to be more clear.

In A, "on the size of monkfish.." appears to be far away from "there are no legal limits". The sentence does not seem that clear.

Can someone point out whats wrong in C. Is it "which"?, I was not sure whether that usage was correct.

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by cbenk121 » Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:32 pm

punitkaur wrote:I don't see anything wrong with A. But I was confused between A & C. I chose C as I thought it to be more clear.

In A, "on the size of monkfish.." appears to be far away from "there are no legal limits". The sentence does not seem that clear.

Can someone point out whats wrong in C. Is it "which"?, I was not sure whether that usage was correct.

Yup, "which" leeches onto "monkfish", which doesn't make sense. Why were you able to eliminate (E)? I thought in (A), the phrase "a circumstance that..." sounded awkward...but must be OK on GMAT lol.

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by raghavakumar85 » Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:41 pm

A is correct. The circumstance here is catching fish without any legal limits.

I guess that's the reason C is wrong. It looks like which is modifying the noun Monkfish.

E .. "contributing to their depletion because they are overfished" is not clear to me.

I am not sure though. I would like to pay atention to others' replies. Good question.

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by skprocks » Fri Aug 27, 2010 5:15 am

cbenk121 wrote:There are no legal limits, as there are for cod and haddock, on the size of monkfish that can be caught, a circumstance that contributes to their depletion through overfishing.

(A) There are no legal limits, as there are for cod and haddock, on the size of monkfish that can be caught, a circumstance that contributes to their depletion through overfishing.
(B) There are no legal limits on the size of monkfish that can be caught, unlike cod or haddock, a circumstance that contributes to depleting them because they are being overfished.
(C) There are legal limits on the size of cod and haddock that can be caught, but not for monkfish, which contributes to its depletion through overfishing.
(D) Unlike cod and haddock, there are no legal size limits on catching monkfish, which contributes to its depletion by being overfished.
(E) Unlike catching cod and haddock, there are no legal size limits on catching monkfish, contributing to their depletion because they are overfished.

OA: A

Please give a detailed response to this one.I hope Stacy,Ron et al are listening.An Expert needed here.

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by gmat_perfect » Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:38 am

cbenk121 wrote:There are no legal limits, as there are for cod and haddock, on the size of monkfish that can be caught, a circumstance that contributes to their depletion through overfishing.

(A) There are no legal limits, as there are for cod and haddock, on the size of monkfish that can be caught, a circumstance that contributes to their depletion through overfishing.
(B) There are no legal limits on the size of monkfish that can be caught, unlike cod or haddock, a circumstance that contributes to depleting them because they are being overfished.
(C) There are legal limits on the size of cod and haddock that can be caught, but not for monkfish, which contributes to its depletion through overfishing.
(D) Unlike cod and haddock, there are no legal size limits on catching monkfish, which contributes to its depletion by being overfished.
(E) Unlike catching cod and haddock, there are no legal size limits on catching monkfish, contributing to their depletion because they are overfished.

OA: A

Some deals:

1. Unlike X, Y:

Where X and Y MUST be grammatically parallel.

If X is NOUN, Y MUST be NOUN.
If X is conjugated Verb, Y MUST be conjugated VERB.

Now, look for the options:

E.Unlike catching cod and haddock, there are no legal size limits on catching monkfish, contributing to their depletion because they are overfished.

=> Catching is not parallel with "legal size limits"

D.Unlike cod and haddock, there are no legal size limits on catching monkfish, which contributes to its depletion by being overfished.

Cod and haddock is NOT parallel with "legal size limits"

(B) There are no legal limits on the size of monkfish that can be caught, unlike cod or haddock, a circumstance that contributes to depleting them because they are being overfished.

Legal size limits is NOT parallel with "cod or haddock"

Now, the options A and C"

Look at the option C carefully:

C) There are legal limits on the size of cod and haddock that can be caught, but not for monkfish, which contributes to its depletion through overfishing.

C is wrong for two reasons:

1. Which has been used incorrectly. It means that monkfish themselves contribute to the depletion. Does it make sense?
2. Common NOUNs can be used in the following ways:
2.1. If we want to use common NOUNs in singular form, we need to follow the following structure.
THE/A/AN + Common NOUN ----Singular.

example:
---> I need a book.
---> The child wanted the pen.

2.2. If we want to use common in plural form, we need not use any article before the NOUN.

Example:

--> Books are men's best friends.
--> Cows give us milk.

Fish is a common NOUN. In this sentence "monkfish" has been used without article. So, monkfish is plural.

#2 error in C is the use of "it" to refer to "monkfish"

What remains? A, the best choice.

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by alivapriyada » Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:45 am

1. Unlike X, Y:

Where X and Y MUST be grammatically parallel.

If X is NOUN, Y MUST be NOUN.
If X is conjugated Verb, Y MUST be conjugated VERB.

Now, look for the options:

E.Unlike catching cod and haddock, there are no legal size limits on catching monkfish, contributing to their depletion because they are overfished.

=> Catching is not parallel with "legal size limits"

D.Unlike cod and haddock, there are no legal size limits on catching monkfish, which contributes to its depletion by being overfished.

Cod and haddock is NOT parallel with "legal size limits"

(B) There are no legal limits on the size of monkfish that can be caught, unlike cod or haddock, a circumstance that contributes to depleting them because they are being overfished.

Legal size limits is NOT parallel with "cod or haddock"

Now, the options A and C"

Look at the option C carefully:

C) There are legal limits on the size of cod and haddock that can be caught, but not for monkfish, which contributes to its depletion through overfishing.

C is wrong for two reasons:

1. Which has been used incorrectly. It means that monkfish themselves contribute to the depletion. Does it make sense?
2. Common NOUNs can be used in the following ways:
2.1. If we want to use common NOUNs in singular form, we need to follow the following structure.
THE/A/AN + Common NOUN ----Singular.

example:
---> I need a book.
---> The child wanted the pen.

2.2. If we want to use common in plural form, we need not use any article before the NOUN.

Example:

--> Books are men's best friends.
--> Cows give us milk.

Fish is a common NOUN. In this sentence "monkfish" has been used without article. So, monkfish is plural.

#2 error in C is the use of "it" to refer to "monkfish"

What remains? A, the best choice.

Thanks.
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by gmat_perfect » Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:02 am

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Thanks for the compliment. Your compliment will encourage me to write good explanation.

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by mithilesh.vnit85 » Fri Dec 24, 2010 12:29 am

cbenk121 wrote:There are no legal limits, as there are for cod and haddock, on the size of monkfish that can be caught, a circumstance that contributes to their depletion through overfishing.

(A) There are no legal limits, as there are for cod and haddock, on the size of monkfish that can be caught, a circumstance that contributes to their depletion through overfishing.
(B) There are no legal limits on the size of monkfish that can be caught, unlike cod or haddock, a circumstance that contributes to depleting them because they are being overfished.
(C) There are legal limits on the size of cod and haddock that can be caught, but not for monkfish, which contributes to its depletion through overfishing.
(D) Unlike cod and haddock, there are no legal size limits on catching monkfish, which contributes to its depletion by being overfished.
(E) Unlike catching cod and haddock, there are no legal size limits on catching monkfish, contributing to their depletion because they are overfished.

OA: A

Option A is a classical example of an appositive modifier "a circumstance that contributes to their depletion through overfishing". In this case as the noun "A circumstance" is abstract it modifies the previous clause.
Use of "which" is not correct in C and D. It modifies "monkfish"
In B and E the comparision is an issue.
IMO A.

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by Taran » Mon Jan 24, 2011 7:00 pm

All points taken. Great explanation. Just one doubt.

Should we not have a singular pronoun for Monkfish (a common noun)? I cancelled A because of 'their depletion'. I chose C, but now i realize that C is also incorrect.

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by Target2009 » Mon Jan 24, 2011 8:29 pm

IMO A

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by prashant misra » Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:51 am

i was also confused between A and C and ended up chosing the wrong option though i knew that which should properly refer to the noun immediately preceding it.

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by indi » Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:37 am

Problem looks tough but actually simple to solve thru POE ..

Unlike and which make it easy to solve..

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by ArunangsuSahu » Sun Jan 01, 2012 7:07 am

(A) is the correct as it makes sense for "the legal limits"

(E) would have been correct if the 1st Phrase would have the legal limits also

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by mourinhogmat1 » Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:57 pm

How is A correct? What does "they or their" refer to? "The size of monkfish" and not the "monkfish". The referrent is clearly not right.

May I know what is the source of this question?

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