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by kris610 » Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:16 pm
Due to the presence of the patagium, the membrane that allows for gliding, one renegade biologist claims that flying squirrels, sugar fliers, and bats are more closely related to the Volaticotherium antiquum-an extinct group of flying mammals that is known for displaying the patagium-than to one another.


(A) that flying squirrels, sugar fliers, and bats are more closely related to the Volaticotherium antiquum-an extinct group of flying mammals that is known for displaying the patagium-than

(B) that flying squirrels, sugar fliers, and bats are more closely related to the Volaticotherium antiquum-an extinct group of flying mammals that are known for displaying the patagium-as

(C) flying squirrels, sugar fliers, and bats are more closely related to the Volaticotherium antiquum-an extinct group of flying mammals that are known for displaying the patagium-than they are

(D) flying squirrels, sugar fliers and bats are more closely related to the Volaticotherium antiquum-an extinct group of flying mammals that is known for displaying the patagium-as they are

(E) flying squirrels, sugar fliers, and bats are more closely related to the Volaticotherium antiquum-an extinct group of flying mammals that are known for displaying the patagium-than

A

The relative pronoun "that" in "an extinct group...." modifies what? the group as a whole or the flying mammals? Please share your thoughts
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by force5 » Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:27 pm
two things..

Idiom claims that and SVA

In A its fulfilled. in B it says an extinct group ... that are (incorrect). That modifies Group and not mammals.

Hence A
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by Tani » Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:13 pm
First, the "Volaticotherium...group" is singular, which eliminates B, D and E. In other words, the "that" in that clause refers to the "group". AS a good rule of thumb, you can drop prepositional phrases when looking for antecedents. In other words, scratch out "of flying mammals" and the sentence becomes clearer.

Between A and C, the original is simpler and more direct.
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by atulmangal » Sun Apr 17, 2011 6:02 pm
@kris610

I think you can also solve this question with this knowledge

Idiomatically MORE should be followed by THAN...u left with A,C,E...and second...claim should be followed by THAT...hence left with Op A..
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by Tani » Sun Apr 17, 2011 6:06 pm
Correct form would be "one of the books that is" - "one" is the subject.
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by gmat.gt » Sun Apr 17, 2011 9:49 pm
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Can you please explain the post : "Correct form would be "one of the books that is" - "one" is the subject."?


Here the verb should refer to Books right?
e.g This is one of those BOOKS that WERE published last year!

Please correct if I am wrong.
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by AIM GMAT » Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:03 pm
(A) that flying squirrels, sugar fliers, and bats are more closely related to the Volaticotherium antiquum-an extinct group of flying mammals that is known for displaying the patagium-than

(B) that flying squirrels, sugar fliers, and bats are more closely related to the Volaticotherium antiquum-an extinct group of flying mammals that are known for displaying the patagium-as

(C) flying squirrels, sugar fliers, and bats are more closely related to the Volaticotherium antiquum-an extinct group of flying mammals that are known for displaying the patagium-than they are

(D) flying squirrels, sugar fliers and bats are more closely related to the Volaticotherium antiquum-an extinct group of flying mammals that is known for displaying the patagium-as they are

(E) flying squirrels, sugar fliers, and bats are more closely related to the Volaticotherium antiquum-an extinct group of flying mammals that are known for displaying the patagium-than


IMO A .
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by Tani » Mon Apr 18, 2011 7:06 am
The subject is "one" not "books". The subject is not in a prepositional phrase. "Of the books" is a prepositional phrase that modifies the true subject: "one"
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by atulmangal » Thu May 19, 2011 8:17 am
Tani Wolff - Kaplan wrote:Correct form would be "one of the books that is" - "one" is the subject.
@Tani, thanks for your post but,

Aristotle SC guide says:

One of the NOUN (plural) THAT/WHO PLURAL VERB

THAT/WHO refer back to the NOUN which is plural so take a plural verb

Example:--
One of the books that are...NOT is
One of the cricketers who are....NOT is

If, THAT / WHO is not there in the sentence then the structure is

ONE OF THE NOUN (PLURAL) VERB (SINGULAR)

Example

ONE of my friends IS an IT professional

One of the boys is...NOT are

Furthermore, i read the below concepts in some SC notes:

He is ONLY ONE/ JUST ONE/ BUT ONE of my friends who ARE an IT professional

EXCEPTION in the above rule:

If THE ONLY ONE Is Present Then VERB Should be SINGULAR

He is THE ONLY ONE of my friends who IS an IT professional


Are these concepts incorrect??? Please clear.

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by Frankenstein » Thu May 19, 2011 8:53 am
atulmangal wrote:
Example:--
One of the books that are...NOT is
One of the cricketers who are....NOT is

If, THAT / WHO is not there in the sentence then the structure is

ONE OF THE NOUN (PLURAL) VERB (SINGULAR)

Example

ONE of my friends IS an IT professional

One of the boys is...NOT are

Furthermore, i read the below concepts in some SC notes:

He is ONLY ONE/ JUST ONE/ BUT ONE of my friends who ARE an IT professional

EXCEPTION in the above rule:

If THE ONLY ONE Is Present Then VERB Should be SINGULAR

He is THE ONLY ONE of my friends who IS an IT professional


Are these concepts incorrect??? Please clear.

Regards
Atul
Hi,
When the subject of a verb is a relative pronoun(who,that,which), the verb agrees with the antecedent of the relative pronoun. I hope this answers your query.

Cheers!
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by Frankenstein » Thu May 19, 2011 9:00 am
gmat.gt wrote:@Tani Wolff - Kaplan

Can you please explain the post : "Correct form would be "one of the books that is" - "one" is the subject."?


Here the verb should refer to Books right?
e.g This is one of those BOOKS that WERE published last year!
Agreed!
But in the original question posted, the subject is the 'Volaticotherium antiquum'. Hence, the verb should be singular.
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by atulmangal » Thu May 19, 2011 9:25 am
Frankenstein wrote:
atulmangal wrote:
Example:--
One of the books that are...NOT is
One of the cricketers who are....NOT is

If, THAT / WHO is not there in the sentence then the structure is

ONE OF THE NOUN (PLURAL) VERB (SINGULAR)

Example

ONE of my friends IS an IT professional

One of the boys is...NOT are

Furthermore, i read the below concepts in some SC notes:

He is ONLY ONE/ JUST ONE/ BUT ONE of my friends who ARE an IT professional

EXCEPTION in the above rule:

If THE ONLY ONE Is Present Then VERB Should be SINGULAR

He is THE ONLY ONE of my friends who IS an IT professional


Are these concepts incorrect??? Please clear.

Regards
Atul
Hi,
When the subject of a verb is a relative pronoun(who,that,which), the verb agrees with the antecedent of the relative pronoun. I hope this answers your query.

Cheers!
That means my examples are correct..as i already mentioned WHO/THAT refer to plural NOUN in these examples
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by Frankenstein » Thu May 19, 2011 9:40 am
atulmangal wrote:
Frankenstein wrote:
atulmangal wrote:
Example:--
One of the books that are...NOT is
One of the cricketers who are....NOT is

If, THAT / WHO is not there in the sentence then the structure is

ONE OF THE NOUN (PLURAL) VERB (SINGULAR)

Example

ONE of my friends IS an IT professional

One of the boys is...NOT are

Furthermore, i read the below concepts in some SC notes:

He is ONLY ONE/ JUST ONE/ BUT ONE of my friends who ARE an IT professional

EXCEPTION in the above rule:

If THE ONLY ONE Is Present Then VERB Should be SINGULAR

He is THE ONLY ONE of my friends who IS an IT professional


Are these concepts incorrect??? Please clear.

Regards
Atul
Hi,
When the subject of a verb is a relative pronoun(who,that,which), the verb agrees with the antecedent of the relative pronoun. I hope this answers your query.

Cheers!
That means my examples are correct..as i already mentioned WHO/THAT refer to plural NOUN in these examples
Yes, your examples are correct. I just added the underlying principle. However, we have to be careful and not get confused.
e.g.
1.)This is one of the best poems that have (not has) appeared. [Antecedent of that is novels, not one]
2.)This is the only one of his poems that is (not are) worth reading.[Antecedent of that is one. "Of his poems this is the only one that is worth reading"]

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by nafiul9090 » Fri May 20, 2011 7:21 pm
atulmangal wrote:
Tani Wolff - Kaplan wrote:Correct form would be "one of the books that is" - "one" is the subject.
@Tani, thanks for your post but,

Aristotle SC guide says:

One of the NOUN (plural) THAT/WHO PLURAL VERB

THAT/WHO refer back to the NOUN which is plural so take a plural verb

Example:--
One of the books that are...NOT is
One of the cricketers who are....NOT is

If, THAT / WHO is not there in the sentence then the structure is

ONE OF THE NOUN (PLURAL) VERB (SINGULAR)

Example

ONE of my friends IS an IT professional

One of the boys is...NOT are

Furthermore, i read the below concepts in some SC notes:

He is ONLY ONE/ JUST ONE/ BUT ONE of my friends who ARE an IT professional

EXCEPTION in the above rule:

If THE ONLY ONE Is Present Then VERB Should be SINGULAR

He is THE ONLY ONE of my friends who IS an IT professional


Are these concepts incorrect??? Please clear.

Regards
Atul
hi atul,

i do understand More....Than construction in the SC.but i am a bit confused when you refer aristotle SC guide....

according to aristottle guide as you say "One of the NOUN (plural) THAT/WHO PLURAL VERB

THAT/WHO refer back to the NOUN which is plural so take a plural verb"

now lets get back to the answer choice -"A an extinct group of flying mammals that is known"

here which one THAT refers ...an extinct group or flying mammals?

regards

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by Frankenstein » Sat May 21, 2011 2:45 am
nafiul9090 wrote: now lets get back to the answer choice -"A an extinct group of flying mammals that is known"

here which one THAT refers ...an extinct group or flying mammals?

regards

nafi
Hi,
'that' refers to the extinct group.. flying mammals just describes what the group is made of.

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