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arghya05: Senior | Next Rank: 100 Posts; Posts: 81; Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:38 amFollowed by: 1 member; Thanked: 2 times

by arghya05 » Mon Feb 21, 2011 2:33 am

Despite Beethoven's traditional status as the first great Romantic composer, he is considered by some musicologists to be the last great composer of the Classical era.

Despite Beethoven's traditional status as the first great Romantic composer, he is considered by some musicologists to be the last great composer of the Classical era.

Despite Beethoven's traditional status as the first great Romantic composer, he is considered the last great composer of the Classical era by some musicologists.

Although his status is traditionally as the first great Romantic composer, Beethoven is considered as being the last great composer of the Classical era by some musicologists.

Despite his traditional status as the first great Romantic composer, Beethoven is considered the last great composer of the Classical era by some musicologists.

correct answer is D but how can HIS refers to Beethoven ACCORDING TO RULE POSSESSIVE PRONOUN CAN REFER TO POSSESSIVE NOUN

Although he is traditionally considered to be the first great Romantic composer, some musicologists consider Beethoven as the last great composer of the Classical era.

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by aspirant2011 » Mon Feb 21, 2011 2:48 am

Yup the answer should be D i.e "Despite his traditional status as the first great Romantic composer, Beethoven is considered the last great composer of the Classical era by some musicologists. "

A & C u can reject because of wrong idiom consider to be & consider as
B is wrong because it talks "Bethoven's" and his should point to "Noun"
D is the right answer

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by MAAJ » Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:25 am

How is E wrong? In this case, is HE refering to Beethoven?

Although HE is traditionally considered to be the first great Romantic composer, some musicologists consider Beethoven as the last great composer of the Classical era.

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by cyrwr1 » Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:58 am

More explanation please. I don't know why C is incorrect

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by stormier » Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:49 am

arghya05 wrote:Despite Beethoven's traditional status as the first great Romantic composer, he is considered by some musicologists to be the last great composer of the Classical era.

Despite Beethoven's traditional status as the first great Romantic composer, he is considered by some musicologists to be the last great composer of the Classical era.

Despite Beethoven's traditional status as the first great Romantic composer, he is considered the last great composer of the Classical era by some musicologists.

Although his status is traditionally as the first great Romantic composer, Beethoven is considered as being the last great composer of the Classical era by some musicologists.

Despite his traditional status as the first great Romantic composer, Beethoven is considered the last great composer of the Classical era by some musicologists.

correct answer is D but how can HIS refers to Beethoven ACCORDING TO RULE POSSESSIVE PRONOUN CAN REFER TO POSSESSIVE NOUN

Although he is traditionally considered to be the first great Romantic composer, some musicologists consider Beethoven as the last great composer of the Classical era.

Errors -

1. All options where he refers to Beethoven's should be ruled out. He should refer to Beethoven. -> rule out A and B

2. Incorrect usage of idiom - consider X Y. A incorrectly uses the idiom as X is considered to be Y. Choice C also incorrectly uses the idiom as - X is considered as being Y. Choice E incorrectly uses the idiom consider X as Y. Only D correctly uses the idiom in the form - X is considered Y.

3. The use of although vs Despite. When someone did something in the face of an opposition, despite is used. For example - Despite his sickness, John performed well in exams. His traditional status was not a problem faced by Beethoven and hence the usage of despite is not suitable. I would prefer the use of although to despite.

Given the choices, I would go with D, because there are issues with A,B,C and E.

Please post with proper format. Its hard to tell which choice is which - A, B, C etc.

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by tetura84 » Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:13 am

arghya05 wrote:Despite Beethoven's traditional status as the first great Romantic composer, he is considered by some musicologists to be the last great composer of the Classical era.

Despite Beethoven's traditional status as the first great Romantic composer, he is considered by some musicologists to be the last great composer of the Classical era.

Despite Beethoven's traditional status as the first great Romantic composer, he is considered the last great composer of the Classical era by some musicologists.

Although his status is traditionally as the first great Romantic composer, Beethoven is considered as being the last great composer of the Classical era by some musicologists.

Despite his traditional status as the first great Romantic composer, Beethoven is considered the last great composer of the Classical era by some musicologists.

correct answer is D but how can HIS refers to Beethoven ACCORDING TO RULE POSSESSIVE PRONOUN CAN REFER TO POSSESSIVE NOUN

Although he is traditionally considered to be the first great Romantic composer, some musicologists consider Beethoven as the last great composer of the Classical era.

Man !!! this is hard to read ...
however, few points I want to mention,

Only possessive pronoun can refer back to possessive noun.
But, possessive pronoun can refer to non-possessive noun as well.

A, B out.

Now correct idiom is, consider X Y
and not, consider as ...
or consider to be ...

C, E out.

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by MAAJ » Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:11 am

Hey ty. I still need to study the Idioms chapter from the MGmat book

I think this is the hardest subject tested for non-native english speakers.

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by diebeatsthegmat » Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:10 am

arghya05 wrote:Despite Beethoven's traditional status as the first great Romantic composer, he is considered by some musicologists to be the last great composer of the Classical era.

Despite Beethoven's traditional status as the first great Romantic composer, he is considered by some musicologists to be the last great composer of the Classical era.

Despite Beethoven's traditional status as the first great Romantic composer, he is considered the last great composer of the Classical era by some musicologists.

Although his status is traditionally as the first great Romantic composer, Beethoven is considered as being the last great composer of the Classical era by some musicologists.

Despite his traditional status as the first great Romantic composer, Beethoven is considered the last great composer of the Classical era by some musicologists. this choice must be the answer, it cant be D

correct answer is D but how can HIS refers to Beethoven ACCORDING TO RULE POSSESSIVE PRONOUN CAN REFER TO POSSESSIVE NOUN

Although he is traditionally considered to be the first great Romantic composer, some musicologists consider Beethoven as the last great composer of the Classical era.

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by cyrwr1 » Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:02 pm

I understand the correct idiom should be : Consider X Y

If that's the case, can someone explain to me why D is correct in using : Beethoven is considered as being the last great composer.

Thank you.

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by stormier » Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:37 pm

To the original poster - please format properly before posting - it causes a great deal of confusion

arghya05 wrote:Despite Beethoven's traditional status as the first great Romantic composer, he is considered by some musicologists to be the last great composer of the Classical era. Choice A

Despite Beethoven's traditional status as the first great Romantic composer, he is considered by some musicologists to be the last great composer of the Classical era. choice A

Despite Beethoven's traditional status as the first great Romantic composer, he is considered the last great composer of the Classical era by some musicologists. choice B

Although his status is traditionally as the first great Romantic composer, Beethoven is considered as being the last great composer of the Classical era by some musicologists. choice C

Despite his traditional status as the first great Romantic composer, Beethoven is considered the last great composer of the Classical era by some musicologists. choice D

correct answer is D but how can HIS refers to Beethoven ACCORDING TO RULE POSSESSIVE PRONOUN CAN REFER TO POSSESSIVE NOUN

Although he is traditionally considered to be the first great Romantic composer, some musicologists consider Beethoven as the last great composer of the Classical era.choice E

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by cyrwr1 » Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:52 pm

Thank you Stormier

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