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by kvcpk » Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:46 pm
sanju09 wrote:
kvcpk wrote:I think I found the right thread to post my question.

As per what I have heard, on the GMAT Land,
If it is given,
x = sqrt(36), then x=6
if it is given
x^2 = 36, then x can be 6 or -6

Am I right?

Then what about sqrt(x^2) ?
sqrt(x^2) is x
Couple of questions:

First Am I right in writing the above.

Second:
sqrt(x^2) = |x| or simply x?

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by selango » Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:48 pm
Can we rephrase like this?

sqrt(x^2) always gives the positive value whatever the sign of x.

-->sqrt(x^2)=|x|
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by sanju09 » Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:05 pm
selango wrote:Sanju,

Please check the below GMATPREP problem,

https://www.beatthegmat.com/gmat-prep-sq ... 63401.html

If sqrt(x^2)=x,then the answer is 1.

Can you please clarify?
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by selango » Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:10 pm
Thanks sanju.

Lot of confusion with sqrt() function.

The important takeaway is sqrt(x^2) always gives the positive value whatever the sign of x.

-->sqrt(x^2)=|x|
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by kvcpk » Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:02 am
selango wrote:Thanks sanju.

Lot of confusion with sqrt() function.

The important takeaway is sqrt(x^2) always gives the positive value whatever the sign of x.

-->sqrt(x^2)=|x|
The question here is IF sqrt(x^2) = |x|, then
sqrt(x^2) = -x when x<0
sqrt(x^2) = x when x>0

No doubt that it is going to be positive. But, There will be a negative sign before it if x is less than 0.

Am I right??

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by sanju09 » Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:20 am
kvcpk wrote:
selango wrote:Thanks sanju.

Lot of confusion with sqrt() function.

The important takeaway is sqrt(x^2) always gives the positive value whatever the sign of x.

-->sqrt(x^2)=|x|
The question here is IF sqrt(x^2) = |x|, then
sqrt(x^2) = -x when x<0
sqrt(x^2) = x when x>0

No doubt that it is going to be positive. But, There will be a negative sign before it if x is less than 0.

Am I right??
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by kvcpk » Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:41 am
selango wrote:Thanks sanju.

Lot of confusion with sqrt() function.

The important takeaway is sqrt(x^2) always gives the positive value whatever the sign of x.

-->sqrt(x^2)=|x|
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by selango » Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:47 am
Thanks :D Glad to join ur club..
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by lunarpower » Mon Aug 09, 2010 4:58 am
mainhoon wrote:What is the difference between ^1/2 and sqrt?
there is no difference; the 1/2 power is exactly the same thing as the "√" sign.
i think that you will see the 1/2 power more often on these forums than you will on the actual exam, since most people don't know how to create the "√" character on the forum.
(fun fact: i actually don't know how to type the "√" character either; i just find it somewhere else on the internet, and then copy and paste it.)
Is it true that in PS in GMAT all roots are assumed positive, ie wherever you see a sqrt sign you know they are referring to the +ve square root of the number?
yes.
in fact, this is not just a gmat convention; this is an absolutely universal convention throughout all of mathematics: the "√" sign automatically represents the positive root (except in the case of √0 = 0, which is neither positive nor negative).
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by lunarpower » Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:15 am
selango wrote:sqrt(x^2)=|x|
yep. you should know this.
in fact, this fact is important and useful enough that you should memorize it -- put it on a flash card, etc.

note that there are also some consequences -- for instance, the inequality x^2 < y^2 is equivalent to the inequality |x| < |y|.
similarly for inequalities involving hard numbers -- for instance,
x^2 < 16
is the same as |x| < 4
(which, in turn, is the same as -4 < x < 4)

also,
x^2 > 16
is the same as |x| > 4
(which, in turn, is the same as x > 4 or x < -4)

basically, the fact that √(x^2) = |x| allows you to take square roots of both sides in many situations involving squares, such as the above.
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by selango » Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:02 am
Excellent..This is an important takeaway..Thanks Ron..
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