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SC: Subjunctive

by stop@800 » Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:53 pm
Congress is debating a bill requiring certain employers provide workers with unpaid leave so as to care for sick or newborn children.

A provide workers with unpaid leave so as to
B to provide workers with unpaid leave so as to
C provide workers with unpaid leave in order that they
D to provide workers with unpaid leave so that they can
E provide workers with unpaid leave and
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Re: SC: Subjunctive

by wonder » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:18 pm
stop@800 wrote:Congress is debating a bill requiring certain employers provide workers with unpaid leave so as to care for sick or newborn children.

A provide workers with unpaid leave so as to
B to provide workers with unpaid leave so as to
C provide workers with unpaid leave in order that they
D to provide workers with unpaid leave so that they can
E provide workers with unpaid leave and


ok, here we go -:
We should know a thumb rule that 'so as' is incorrect on the gmat. so A and B are out.

Now, our usage is X requires Y to do something
OR
X requires that Y do something

Here, we are using the former one, so we need to have a 'to' after "requiring certain employers".....its correctly provided in D. the "so that" also correctly shows that it is the reason why the bill requires employers to give the unpaid leaves...

hoping it helps:)
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by stop@800 » Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:14 am
in D
I think they can refer to employers or to workers.
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by banker1 » Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:47 am
IMO: D

A rule of thumb, the pronoun should refer to the immediate antecedant noun. In this example they refers to 'workers'.
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by HarvardDreamin » Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:19 am
Hmmm, i went with B. Whats the original answer??
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by stop@800 » Thu Sep 25, 2008 11:09 pm
The OA is D but IMO it is incorrect.
A and B are out because of so as to.
C and D are out because of they.

E:
Congress is debating a bill requiring certain employers provide workers with unpaid leave and care for sick or newborn children.
Wrong because
how can employers provide with care for sick or newborn children.


banker1,

A rule of thumb, the pronoun should refer to the immediate antecedant noun. In this example they refers to 'workers'.

I am not sure about this Rule.
I think it should not hold true.

The very first sentence I read for prononun reference was:
A studied with B so that he may pass the exam.
Who may pass the exam: A or B????

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by callmemo » Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:45 pm
I concur with Stop@800. Anyone there to clarify?
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Re: SC: Subjunctive

by logitech » Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:12 pm
stop@800 wrote:Congress is debating a bill requiring certain employers provide workers with unpaid leave so as to care for sick or newborn children.

A provide workers with unpaid leave so as to
B to provide workers with unpaid leave so as to
C provide workers with unpaid leave in order that they
D to provide workers with unpaid leave so that they can
E provide workers with unpaid leave and
Require X to do something

Require THAT X do something

A, C and E are out

Between B and D, so as to is not idiomatic so B is out

Is they a little unclear ? Yes it is - but Does Employer or Workers take care of their children with unpaid leave ? Of course workers
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Re: SC: Subjunctive

by stop@800 » Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:38 pm
logitech wrote:
stop@800 wrote:Congress is debating a bill requiring certain employers provide workers with unpaid leave so as to care for sick or newborn children.

A provide workers with unpaid leave so as to
B to provide workers with unpaid leave so as to
C provide workers with unpaid leave in order that they
D to provide workers with unpaid leave so that they can
E provide workers with unpaid leave and
Require X to do something

Require THAT X do something

A, C and E are out

Between B and D, so as to is not idiomatic so B is out

Is they a little unclear ? Yes it is - but Does Employer or Workers take care of their children with unpaid leave ? Of course workers
logitech,
Can we assume this?

I think no.
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Re: SC: Subjunctive

by logitech » Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:46 pm
stop@800 wrote:
logitech wrote:
stop@800 wrote:Congress is debating a bill requiring certain employers provide workers with unpaid leave so as to care for sick or newborn children.

A provide workers with unpaid leave so as to
B to provide workers with unpaid leave so as to
C provide workers with unpaid leave in order that they
D to provide workers with unpaid leave so that they can
E provide workers with unpaid leave and
Require X to do something

Require THAT X do something

A, C and E are out

Between B and D, so as to is not idiomatic so B is out

Is they a little unclear ? Yes it is - but Does Employer or Workers take care of their children with unpaid leave ? Of course workers
logitech,
Can we assume this?

I think no.
I don't think we are assuming . But we are more like making an inference.

The birds have long wings, but they could not escape from the eagle.

Who did not escape ?

Do I make any sense here ?

:oops:
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Re: SC: Subjunctive

by stop@800 » Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:53 pm
logitech wrote:
stop@800 wrote:
logitech wrote:
stop@800 wrote:Congress is debating a bill requiring certain employers provide workers with unpaid leave so as to care for sick or newborn children.

A provide workers with unpaid leave so as to
B to provide workers with unpaid leave so as to
C provide workers with unpaid leave in order that they
D to provide workers with unpaid leave so that they can
E provide workers with unpaid leave and
Require X to do something

Require THAT X do something

A, C and E are out

Between B and D, so as to is not idiomatic so B is out

Is they a little unclear ? Yes it is - but Does Employer or Workers take care of their children with unpaid leave ? Of course workers
logitech,
Can we assume this?

I think no.
I don't think we are assuming . But we are more like making an inference.

The birds have long wings, but they could not escape from the eagle.

Who did not escape ?

Do I make any sense here ?

:oops:
I understand, if we apply mind it sounds logical.
but as per my understanding, we are not suppose to.

I will reread my notes and will get back.
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Re: SC: Subjunctive

by logitech » Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:05 pm
stop@800 The Man wrote: I will reread my notes and will get back.


Please let us know Stop! Thank you.
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by Stacey Koprince » Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:59 am
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by er_priyankajolly » Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:46 pm
Stacey Koprince wrote:Received a PM asking me to reply. I don't see a source listed above; please cite the source and I will be happy to reply!
Its OG 10 Question Number 67.

Also please let us know why so as to is unidiomatic ?
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by kvcpk » Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:48 pm
Stacey Koprince wrote:Received a PM asking me to reply. I don't see a source listed above; please cite the source and I will be happy to reply!
I chose B because "they" in option D is ambiguous.. Can you please let me know why D is the rite option?
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