Legislation in the Canadian province

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abcgmat: Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts; Posts: 222; Joined: Sat Aug 27, 2011 1:06 pmFollowed by: 1 member; Thanked: 19 times

by abcgmat » Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:48 am

Legislation in the Canadian province of Ontario requires of both public and private employers that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are usually held by men.
A. that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are
B. that pay for jobs historically held by women should be the same as for a job requiring comparable skills
C. to pay the same in jobs historically held by women as in jobs of comparable skill that are
D. to pay the same regardless of whether a job was historically held by women or is one demanding comparable skills
E. to pay as much for jobs historically held by women as for a job demanding comparable skills.

[spoiler]OA: A[/spoiler]
I have a confusion between A and C
I would like to know If
1. same in - is an Incorrect IDIOM or is it used in a wrong way here
2. and why C is wrong is inferior to A?

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by killer1387 » Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:58 am

abcgmat wrote:Legislation in the Canadian province of Ontario requires of both public and private employers that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are usually held by men.
A. that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are
B. that pay for jobs historically held by women should be the same as for a job requiring comparable skills
C. to pay the same in jobs historically held by women as in jobs of comparable skill that are
D. to pay the same regardless of whether a job was historically held by women or is one demanding comparable skills
E. to pay as much for jobs historically held by women as for a job demanding comparable skills.

[spoiler]OA: A[/spoiler]
I have a confusion between A and C
I would like to know If
1. same in - is an Incorrect IDIOM or is it used in a wrong way here
2. and why C is wrong is inferior to A?

In C "to" is wrong, command subjunctive case and correct construction is in A hence correct

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abcgmat: Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts; Posts: 222; Joined: Sat Aug 27, 2011 1:06 pmFollowed by: 1 member; Thanked: 19 times

by abcgmat » Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:18 am

Hi

I think : require can be used with 'that' or with 'to'
E.g. I require some money to lend my brother

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by killer1387 » Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:23 am

abcgmat wrote:Hi

I think : require can be used with 'that' or with 'to'
E.g. I require some money to lend my brother

I agree with you on this but in this question require is used as a BOSSY VERB. we need to follow the command subjunctive construction.

The example you gave uses "require " NOT in a bossy verb way.

hope this helps..!!

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by abcgmat » Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:05 am

Thanks Killer1387 . Can some one help regarding usage of

same for jobs Vs same in jobs in Option A and C.

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by avik.ch » Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:44 am

abcgmat wrote:Hi

I think : require can be used with 'that' or with 'to'
E.g. I require some money to lend my brother

yes, require can take both "to" and "that" - but the underlying construction will be different there. here we need "that" and not "to".

1. Bossy verb(require) + that + subject + command subjunctive --> i require that he be here.

Now converting the subject of the noun clause into the object of the verb - "require"

2. Bossy verb + object + to + command subjunctive ---> I require him to be here.

Here, require of both X and Y that... - is correct. We can blindly eliminate C,D and E because "of both X and Y" is not an object of the verb "require". It functionally acts as an object, but not grammatically - its an adverb.

Can some one help regarding usage of

same for jobs Vs same in jobs in Option A and C.

I do not think this is the split here, we can directly eliminate C as I said above.

Hope this helps !!

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by abcgmat » Sat Apr 21, 2012 5:50 am

2. Bossy verb + object + to + command subjunctive ---> I require him to be here.

Is the above statement a rule or is it something you have observed, If its a rule could you tell the source

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by avik.ch » Sat Apr 21, 2012 5:59 am

abcgmat wrote:2. Bossy verb + object + to + command subjunctive ---> I require him to be here.

Is the above statement a rule or is it something you have observed, If its a rule could you tell the source

Some bossy verb takes only "to", such as allow,forbid : here this is the appropiate structure.
Some bossy verb takes both : such as require, intend, urge....

When it can take the infinitive form, this structure is fine.

Hope this helps !!

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by PGMAT » Sat Apr 21, 2012 5:56 pm

1. Bossy verb(require) + that + subject + command subjunctive --> i require that he be here.

Now converting the subject of the noun clause into the object of the verb - "require"

2. Bossy verb + object + to + command subjunctive ---> I require him to be here.

In C, whats the object / subject? Can you explain how 2. fits here?

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by avik.ch » Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:44 pm

PGMAT wrote:
In C, whats the object / subject? Can you explain how 2. fits here?

(2) doesnt fits here, as in C,D and E there is no object for the verb "require". So we can directly eliminate C,D and E

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by manihar.sidharth » Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:45 am

Isn't that in Option A refers to singular skill ??

Please explain ??

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