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Issue with tenses - SC

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by [email protected] » Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:02 pm
It is possible that Native Americans originally have migrated
to the Western Hemisphere over a bridge of land that once
existed
between Siberia and Alaska.

A. have migrated to the Western Hemisphere over a bridge
of land that once existed

B. were migrating to the Western Hemisphere over a bridge
of land that existed once

C. migrated over a bridge of land to the Western Hemisphere
that once existed

D. migrated to the Western Hemisphere over a bridge of land
that once existed

E. were migrating to the Western Hemisphere over a bridge

of land existing once


The answer is D for the reason:
This sentence uses the correct tense 'migrated' to
describe an action completed in the past.

My quetion is we say that we canuse present perfect tense to talk
about an action completed in the past but has some relevance in the
present. Will it not apply here ?

Actually I am a bit confused on when is present perfect correct as against
the usage of a past tense. Please explain...
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by rockeyb » Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:08 pm
[email protected] wrote:It is possible that Native Americans originally have migrated
to the Western Hemisphere over a bridge of land that once
existed
between Siberia and Alaska.

A. have migrated to the Western Hemisphere over a bridge
of land that once existed

B. were migrating to the Western Hemisphere over a bridge
of land that existed once

C. migrated over a bridge of land to the Western Hemisphere
that once existed

D. migrated to the Western Hemisphere over a bridge of land
that once existed

E. were migrating to the Western Hemisphere over a bridge

of land existing once


The answer is D for the reason:
This sentence uses the correct tense 'migrated' to
describe an action completed in the past.

My quetion is we say that we canuse present perfect tense to talk
about an action completed in the past but has some relevance in the
present. Will it not apply here ?

Actually I am a bit confused on when is present perfect correct as against
the usage of a past tense. Please explain...
Present Perfect tense talks about the action that started in past and continues in present or is completed in past but its effect continues in present .

Ex : The girl HAS drawn a square on the sand .

The action of drawing the square is over but the square is still there on the sand .

Similarly in the above sentence Americans started migration in the past but the migration has topped and the bridge that once existed is also not there . So use of Present Perfect is incorrect here.
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by [email protected] » Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:19 pm
I have taken the GMAT. (or)
I took the GMAT.

Which one should I use ?
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by rockeyb » Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:35 pm
[email protected] wrote:I have taken the GMAT. (or)
I took the GMAT.

Which one should I use ?
You tell me . Is the action of taking GMAT still going on ? Is there any thing in the sentence that indicates that the effect of taking GMAT is still present ?

You have your answer . :)

Also look at this post from Ron : https://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/pas ... t1818.html
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by [email protected] » Sun Apr 11, 2010 2:47 am
In the post Ron says that present perfect can be used for a
completed action which has a direct bearing to an immediate
situation.

Now, this is what is not clear for me. I don't understand when
should I consider this as a completed action which has some relevance
to the current situation and when should I consider it as a completed
action in the past.

Could you let me know, please?

Thank you
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by rockeyb » Sun Apr 11, 2010 3:11 am
[email protected] wrote:In the post Ron says that present perfect can be used for a
completed action which has a direct bearing to an immediate
situation.

Now, this is what is not clear for me. I don't understand when
should I consider this as a completed action which has some relevance
to the current situation and when should I consider it as a completed
action in the past.

Could you let me know, please?

Thank you
Ok I will try to give you an example .

Lets consider the example you choose .

Ex : Since 2008 I have given GMAT every year .

Now thing to look out for is the time indicator SINCE that tells you the action started way back in 2008 and use of Present Perfect indicates that its still continuing .

Where as I gave GMAT.

simply will indicate that I have given GMAT some time in past and action is complete.


So looking for time indicators can do the trick . Also the sentence will make a lot more sense logically if you look for time indicators .

In the above sentence once existed the bridge itself dose not exist so the immigration that is in question should have stopped hence no need of present perfect tense .


I hope this helps .
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by [email protected] » Sun Apr 11, 2010 3:17 am
Let us suppose I gave my GMAT yesterday. Then, what do I say ?

I gave my GMAT yesterday. (or)
I have given my GMAT yesterday.

I feel the first one sounds good, but is the second one wrong? Why?

Could you let me know, please?
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by rockeyb » Sun Apr 11, 2010 3:29 am
[email protected] wrote:Let us suppose I gave my GMAT yesterday. Then, what do I say ?

I gave my GMAT yesterday. (or)
I have given my GMAT yesterday.

I feel the first one sounds good, but is the second one wrong? Why?

Could you let me know, please?
The first one is more appropriate in this case as we dont know if the effect of the action still continues today or not .

The only thing we know is I gave my GMAT yesterday.- Action started in past and completed yesterday .

So the second statement will not be correct as the action is complete and its effects are not shown in present .
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