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by ska7945 » Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:11 pm
In 1945, after a career as First Lady in which she shattered expectations more audaciously than either Abigail Adams or Dolly Madison ever had been, Eleanor Roosevelt was appointed a delegate to the United Nations General Assembly by President Harry S Truman.

(A) more audaciously than either Abigail Adams or Dolly Madison ever had been, Eleanor Roosevelt was appointed a delegate to the United Nations General Assembly by President Harry S Truman
(B) more audaciously than either Abigail Adams or Dolly Madison, President Harry S Truman had Eleanor Roosevelt appointed to be a delegate to the United Nations General Assembly
(C) with an audacity never matched in the case of Abigail Adams or Dolly Madison, President Harry S Truman had Eleanor Roosevelt appointed as a delegate to the United Nations General Assembly
(D) with an audacity never matched by Abigail Adams or Dolly Madison, Eleanor Roosevelt was appointed a delegate to the United Nations General Assembly by President Harry S Truman
(E) with an audacity never matched either in the case of Abigail Adams or of Dolly Madison's, Eleanor Roosevelt was appointed to be a delegate to the United Nations General Assembly by President Harry S Truman
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by Mani_mba » Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:34 pm
IMO D

You can eliminate B and C because of misplaced modifier problem.

With A, D and E as contenders, we can choose D as it is more concise than the other two options.
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by LSB » Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:43 pm
D by process of elimination

A: Incorrect - "shattered expectations more audaciously than either Abigail Adams or Dolly Madison ever had been" ... you cant shatter something more audaciously than someone else is. The "X is more than Y" structure requires parallelism

B: Incorrect - "President Harry S Truman had Eleanor Roosevelt appointed to be a delegate" ... "to have someone appointed to be" is awkward and wordy

C: Incorrect - "with an audacity never matched in the case of Abigail Adams or Dolly Madison, President Harry S Truman had Eleanor Roosevelt appointed as a delegate" .... never matched in the case is awkward. Having somebody appointed is also awkward.

D: Correct - with an audacity never match by ... is concise. ... "Was appointed", even though passive voice, is correct

E: Incorrect - ... "never matched in the case" is awkward .. "was appointed to be" is an incorrect idiom

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Re: In 1945, after a career as First Lady

by mastbombay » Sat Sep 20, 2008 1:21 pm
IMO D.

A & B both use more audacioulsy than.......

she shattered expectations more audaciously than either A or M ever had been

later part requires verb, now as both the option in A & B , there is no verb in part aftee than, both can be defaulted for not maintaining parallelism....

Now between C D E,

After a career suggests,, the main clause shud be in simple past.......

C loses here......

E though uses simply past tense,,,,still the construction .....appointed to be....is clumsy..........

while D , clear winner, expresses the idea clearly and succintly.....

ska7945 wrote:In 1945, after a career as First Lady in which she shattered expectations more audaciously than either Abigail Adams or Dolly Madison ever had been, Eleanor Roosevelt was appointed a delegate to the United Nations General Assembly by President Harry S Truman.

(A) more audaciously than either Abigail Adams or Dolly Madison ever had been, Eleanor Roosevelt was appointed a delegate to the United Nations General Assembly by President Harry S Truman
(B) more audaciously than either Abigail Adams or Dolly Madison, President Harry S Truman had Eleanor Roosevelt appointed to be a delegate to the United Nations General Assembly
(C) with an audacity never matched in the case of Abigail Adams or Dolly Madison, President Harry S Truman had Eleanor Roosevelt appointed as a delegate to the United Nations General Assembly
(D) with an audacity never matched by Abigail Adams or Dolly Madison, Eleanor Roosevelt was appointed a delegate to the United Nations General Assembly by President Harry S Truman
(E) with an audacity never matched either in the case of Abigail Adams or of Dolly Madison's, Eleanor Roosevelt was appointed to be a delegate to the United Nations General Assembly by President Harry S Truman
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by bhumika.k.shah » Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:56 pm
Hey LSB congrats first of all for getting 50 more points than ur target score :) thats awesome! :)

Could u tell me precisely whats wrong in E ??
whats the correct idiom?

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E: Incorrect - ... "never matched in the case" is awkward .. "was appointed to be" is an incorrect idiom

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by pkit » Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:50 am
Correct idiom is appoint to.

A- out for had been
B,C- out for First Lady..., Harry Truman
D-uses correct idiom appoint to
E- wrong idiom - apppoint to be, wordy.

bhumika.k.shah wrote:Hey LSB congrats first of all for getting 50 more points than ur target score :) thats awesome! :)

Could u tell me precisely whats wrong in E ??
whats the correct idiom?

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E: Incorrect - ... "never matched in the case" is awkward .. "was appointed to be" is an incorrect idiom

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by niksworth » Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:07 pm
bhumika.k.shah wrote: Could u tell me precisely whats wrong in E ??
whats the correct idiom?
Correct idiom is appointed X E.g. appointed a delegate.

Ban Ki Moon was appointed the Secretary General of the UN for a second successive term.

appointed to be is almost always incorrect.

Other errors in E -
1. with an audacity never matched either in the case of - Wrong. with an audacity never matched by is correct.
2. of Abigail Adams or of Dolly Madison's - two ofs are not required
3. of Abigail Adams or of Dolly Madison's - use of possessive is incorrect

D is right.
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by pkit » Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:16 pm
I tend to believe Oxford Dictionary:


appoint ~ sb (to sth) | ~ sb (as) sth to choose sb for a job or position of responsibility:
[VN] They have appointed a new head teacher at my son's school. * She has recently been appointed to the committee. * [VN-N] They appointed him (as) captain of the English team. * [VNtoinf] A lawyer was appointed to represent the child.
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by niksworth » Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:27 pm
Huh, pkit! That stung! Well, to clarify -

Both appointed X and appointed to X are idiomatic but appointed to be X is not.
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by pkit » Fri Sep 10, 2010 10:00 pm
Agree ;)
as you see one of the examples contains appoint X.
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