Dear Nick,
A solid GMAT score will mitigate your GPA as well as a successful track record in your career. Business schools will mainly want to see evidence of quantitative aptitude so that the admissions committee will be confident you can handle the rigor the analytical and quantitative nature of the curriculum. Most schools offer an optional essay for you to explain any extenuating circumstances, so you might consider writing it on your situation during college in that you financed yoru education by working full-time while carrying a full-time number of credits. Additionally, the schools will be looking for a solid rationale from you on why you need an MBA in relation to your past experience and future career goals. So, the best things you can be doing right now are preparing for the GMAT, doing well in your job, and learning about business school/MBA careers so that you will put together a top-notch application.
Good luck,
Lisa
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Hi,
I graduated from University of Waterloo (Canada) with a major in Computer science and minor in Business. After that I have been working as a software developer for last 2 years. Now my undergrad avg was around 72%, but my business course avg is close to 80%.
Now my question is given my gpa and line of work, if I get a score of 700+ in GMAT what are the chances of getting into a top tier business school in states? I am targeting for 2011, so by then I should have 4 years of experience.
I graduated from University of Waterloo (Canada) with a major in Computer science and minor in Business. After that I have been working as a software developer for last 2 years. Now my undergrad avg was around 72%, but my business course avg is close to 80%.
Now my question is given my gpa and line of work, if I get a score of 700+ in GMAT what are the chances of getting into a top tier business school in states? I am targeting for 2011, so by then I should have 4 years of experience.
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Dear mak95,
Since business school admissions decisions are based on more than GMAT and GPA, it is hard to comment on how competitive you will be based on your post. With a 700+ GMAT, you will certainly be in a competitive range on that measure. Your GPA is probably a little below average for a top tier MBA program in the US, but that does not negate your chances if you have an otherwise strong application.
Good luck,
Lisa
Since business school admissions decisions are based on more than GMAT and GPA, it is hard to comment on how competitive you will be based on your post. With a 700+ GMAT, you will certainly be in a competitive range on that measure. Your GPA is probably a little below average for a top tier MBA program in the US, but that does not negate your chances if you have an otherwise strong application.
Good luck,
Lisa
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In my home university there is no valuating grades in terms of GPA. My average is 7,74 (scale is 5-10). How would I write that in terms of GPA ?
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Dear Lattefah84,
For the most accurate conversion, you can have your transcript evaluated by a credentialing service like World Evaluation Services or Global Credential Evaluators. These services do charge a fee, but their assessment is accepted by most schools so you would only have to have it done one time. They also offer translation services if your transcript is not in English.
Good luck,
Lisa
For the most accurate conversion, you can have your transcript evaluated by a credentialing service like World Evaluation Services or Global Credential Evaluators. These services do charge a fee, but their assessment is accepted by most schools so you would only have to have it done one time. They also offer translation services if your transcript is not in English.
Good luck,
Lisa
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I'm sorry to have to do this, but I'm really anxious about applying to B-schools in the upcoming weeks. My story is similar to others, but I was hoping for some personal advice and perspective...
-I graduated from a solid state school with a low (2.7) GPA in biology that stayed pretty consistent the entire time. There's a D in
calculus 2 as part of that. I'm very embarrassed of that in particular. I could've done better.
-I worked to pay for school as I went and probably didn't focus on school as much as I should've.
-Since graduation I have worked for 4.5 years and now the manager of a section of a biology research facility.
-I enrolled in a Biology MS program last fall and have gotten A's in all 6 classes I have taken so far.
-I just sat for the GMAT last week and scored a 750 (83 percentile quant, 99 percentile verbal) and got a 6.0 on the AWA.
-I should be able to receive very strong letters of recommendation from my employer and MS professors.
I would like very much to apply to a top 40 school, and would dream of a top 20. I think that I have the ability to write some pretty compelling essays as part of the application. What is your read on this situation? Could I be considered competitive at a top 40 or even top 20 school?
Thank you very much for your consideration.
JY
-I graduated from a solid state school with a low (2.7) GPA in biology that stayed pretty consistent the entire time. There's a D in
calculus 2 as part of that. I'm very embarrassed of that in particular. I could've done better.
-I worked to pay for school as I went and probably didn't focus on school as much as I should've.
-Since graduation I have worked for 4.5 years and now the manager of a section of a biology research facility.
-I enrolled in a Biology MS program last fall and have gotten A's in all 6 classes I have taken so far.
-I just sat for the GMAT last week and scored a 750 (83 percentile quant, 99 percentile verbal) and got a 6.0 on the AWA.
-I should be able to receive very strong letters of recommendation from my employer and MS professors.
I would like very much to apply to a top 40 school, and would dream of a top 20. I think that I have the ability to write some pretty compelling essays as part of the application. What is your read on this situation? Could I be considered competitive at a top 40 or even top 20 school?
Thank you very much for your consideration.
JY
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Dear JY,
I do think you are competitive at a top 40 school, and probably a top 20, depending on what the rest of your application looks like and your rationale for business school. Your GMAT score is exceptional--congratulations!--and does mitigate your undergraduate GPA along with your master's GPA. I do think you should write the optional essay on your undergraduate academic record noting that your worked through school and your performance on the GMAT and in your master's program are more indicative of your true abilities.
Best of luck,
Lisa
I do think you are competitive at a top 40 school, and probably a top 20, depending on what the rest of your application looks like and your rationale for business school. Your GMAT score is exceptional--congratulations!--and does mitigate your undergraduate GPA along with your master's GPA. I do think you should write the optional essay on your undergraduate academic record noting that your worked through school and your performance on the GMAT and in your master's program are more indicative of your true abilities.
Best of luck,
Lisa
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Thank you very much for the reply! Although these have been my first posts, I have come to this site repeatedly for advice and perspective (long time listener/ first time caller sort of thing). Thank you very much for all that you do and for this post in particular. And happy holidays. Cheers!
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JY, as long as you have 3 years of solid work experience, I am sure that, with you GMAT score & MS grades, you will have absolutely no problem in getting admission at a college ranked between 10-20... unless you bomb your essays 
Hi Lisa, thank you for all of your kind response I learned a lot from this topic.
here is my question
I graduated from Electrical and Electronical Engineering Department of Bogazici University, an extension of Robert College established in 1863 as the first American school outside of the United States in Turkey. But my GPA is bottom (2.02/4) since My father had gone abroad and I had to look after the family so I had been giving private lessons to high school students while studying in University.
I am working for Honeywell for 2.5 years as a project engineer and I was the lead engineer of the last 2 projects.
last week I entered the GMAT exam and get 660 (51Q 27V). What I want is to make an MBA in Pace University in NY.
Do you have any suggestions? is it impossible with this low gpa?
thank you for your support
Best Regards,
Seyda
here is my question
I graduated from Electrical and Electronical Engineering Department of Bogazici University, an extension of Robert College established in 1863 as the first American school outside of the United States in Turkey. But my GPA is bottom (2.02/4) since My father had gone abroad and I had to look after the family so I had been giving private lessons to high school students while studying in University.
I am working for Honeywell for 2.5 years as a project engineer and I was the lead engineer of the last 2 projects.
last week I entered the GMAT exam and get 660 (51Q 27V). What I want is to make an MBA in Pace University in NY.
Do you have any suggestions? is it impossible with this low gpa?
thank you for your support
Best Regards,
Seyda
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Does the alternate transcript really matter? I ask because, from my understanding, the grades from other institutions would not be used to calculate your gpa, so it can't boost your gpa to help with their rankings. Isn't the only course of action to make up for a low gpa to either kill the GMAT or have an amazing resume/accomplishment?
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Dear Seyda,
I would suggest contacting the admissions office at Pace University to discuss your profile. While they will not give you a definitive answer over the phone, you should get some insight into how they will evaluate your application and whether or not your GPA will be viewed as "too low" for the program.
Good luck,
Lisa
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Dear osirus0830,
Yes, the alternate transcript really matters and here is why: it demonstrates your ability to handle the coursework. You do not build an alternate transcript to boost a GPA because, as you point out, it simply cannot as it does not factor into the GPA calculation. You build an alternate transcript to demonstrate to the admissions committee that you are serious about returning to school, motivated to do well in class, and can handle the coursework. If the admissions committee sees that you can earn an "A" in a quantitative class like calculus while you are also working full-time, then that is an indication of your commitment to learn and master the material while effectively managing your time---all important skills to have in an MBA program. A high GMAT score and amazing resume will also mitigate a low GPA, but they don't show your ability to succeed in the classroom they way actual success in the classroom does.
Good luck,
Lisa
I would suggest contacting the admissions office at Pace University to discuss your profile. While they will not give you a definitive answer over the phone, you should get some insight into how they will evaluate your application and whether or not your GPA will be viewed as "too low" for the program.
Good luck,
Lisa
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Dear osirus0830,
Yes, the alternate transcript really matters and here is why: it demonstrates your ability to handle the coursework. You do not build an alternate transcript to boost a GPA because, as you point out, it simply cannot as it does not factor into the GPA calculation. You build an alternate transcript to demonstrate to the admissions committee that you are serious about returning to school, motivated to do well in class, and can handle the coursework. If the admissions committee sees that you can earn an "A" in a quantitative class like calculus while you are also working full-time, then that is an indication of your commitment to learn and master the material while effectively managing your time---all important skills to have in an MBA program. A high GMAT score and amazing resume will also mitigate a low GPA, but they don't show your ability to succeed in the classroom they way actual success in the classroom does.
Good luck,
Lisa
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I have a question about how my GPA will be evaluated. My first 2+ years in college (at the traditional age) I had several personal issues which contributed to a low GPA (2. something ish...). I am currently completing my degree at another school at 29 and will finish in the summer. I want to apply to a local private university's MBA program. They are well ranked in the state / region. I'm aiming for at least a 500 on the GMAT (which is their "required" GPA, I understand that they work with students with a lower score though).
However the school that I will obtain my BS in, doesn't issue GPAs. It's more like pass / fail however in order to pass each class, you must score a B grade or higher. This information is included on the schools transcripts...
How is this going to be viewed by an ad com? I'll have 2 years of classes equivalent to a B average but my GPA will be based solely on the classes taken previously and will only be around a 2. Even application wise, I'll only be able to list the 2 something GPA and would most likely have to include an optional essy to explain as there is no where else on the application to explain....
Any thoughts?
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However the school that I will obtain my BS in, doesn't issue GPAs. It's more like pass / fail however in order to pass each class, you must score a B grade or higher. This information is included on the schools transcripts...
How is this going to be viewed by an ad com? I'll have 2 years of classes equivalent to a B average but my GPA will be based solely on the classes taken previously and will only be around a 2. Even application wise, I'll only be able to list the 2 something GPA and would most likely have to include an optional essy to explain as there is no where else on the application to explain....
Any thoughts?
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Dear hopefullyMBAbound,
MBA admissions folks are used to seeing different grading systems, including the pass/fail variety. Since you did attend a school that had a traditional GPA system, then you are right that you will report that as a GPA. How the school will evaluate you and view your "GPA" for their evaluative purposes is unclear. I would suggest talking directly to the school about how all of your academic history will be considered as it will be considered in its entirety. A solid GMAT score will go a long way to demonstrating academic aptitude as well, so that is another way you can show your ability to excel in the classroom. Finally, you will also want to use the optional essay or additional information section to explain your current university grading system, any mitigating circumstances from your previous school, and how you are motivated/committed to doing well in an MBA program now.
Good luck,
Lisa
MBA admissions folks are used to seeing different grading systems, including the pass/fail variety. Since you did attend a school that had a traditional GPA system, then you are right that you will report that as a GPA. How the school will evaluate you and view your "GPA" for their evaluative purposes is unclear. I would suggest talking directly to the school about how all of your academic history will be considered as it will be considered in its entirety. A solid GMAT score will go a long way to demonstrating academic aptitude as well, so that is another way you can show your ability to excel in the classroom. Finally, you will also want to use the optional essay or additional information section to explain your current university grading system, any mitigating circumstances from your previous school, and how you are motivated/committed to doing well in an MBA program now.
Good luck,
Lisa
Lisa, I am preparing to apply to schools for the 10-11 year and I too have a low gpa. I graduated with an Econ degree from a top 25 university and a 2.8 gpa. This was in 2007. After graduation, I worked for 15 months in Commercial banking and then switched to a management position with a Food Service company. During that time I have been a high school basketball coach for the past two seasons. I have taken Calculus and econ classes (total of 5) at a local city college and received A's in all of them. Additionally I am studying for my GMAT and currently scoring in the 720-740 range. Assuming I can score 700+ which b schools would I have a shot at?
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