Harvard MBA HBS 2+2

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by legend2005 » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:51 am
Very interesting. It seems that HBS definitely did some traveling to promote the 2+2 program, particularly at prestigious LACs and Sciences/Engineering oriented schools.

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by scarter » Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:22 am
I'm certain that a number of Liberal Arts students will be granted admission and an egalitarian focus placed upon the admission of science vs. liberal arts students.

HBS did promote this program well and it seems to be a very popular opportunity worldwide.

Best of luck to all in the interview process!

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by aim-wsc » Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:43 am
wow@!
I am impressed by it's participation level.
I never thought that our forum is filled with junior grad students as well.

By the way did someone changed the name of the thread?
I have no objection but I think I remember this has different title. ... :?

As topic doesn't not belong to GMAT strategy, I am moving it to B-schools in general section https://www.beatthegmat.com/business-sch ... l-f22.html

Thank you.

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by scarter » Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:59 am
Yes, it is very exciting.

No one changed the thread's name-- it remains the same.

Hope all's well!

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exciting indeed

by bze265 » Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:07 am
so can we basically assume that some interview invitations will be sent by Aug. 1st?

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Re: exciting indeed

by legend2005 » Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:19 am
bze265 wrote:so can we basically assume that some interview invitations will be sent by Aug. 1st?
For most HBS rounds, interviews are granted up until the decision notification date. With 2+2, however, it appears that all candidates will interview during the same week AND that travel will be at least partially subsidized. For these reasons, I think most people are thinking that at least a couple of weeks of lead time will be necessary...that's why August 1st seems to be a likely date.

In HBS's blog last week, the Admissions Director Dee Leopold mentioned that "We've been reading applications and spending a lot of time thinking and discussing both individual files and building a summer program for this group for next year. The applications are simply great - everything we hoped for and plenty of them."
- https://www.hbs.edu/mba/admissions/blog.html

It seems that they are well into the admissions process.
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by bze265 » Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:22 am
could you please post the link for the HBS blog? thanks!

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by scarter » Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:35 am
https://www.hbs.edu/mba/admissions/blog.html
Well, so much for frequent blogging during the "down season". When I wrote that, I obviously forgot that this was going to be a new kind of summer: it's the season of the 2+2 Program!

We've been reading applications and spending a lot of time thinking and discussing both individual files and building a summer program for this group for next year. The applications are simply great - everything we hoped for and plenty of them.

This is probably an opportune time to address another frequently asked question: "Is Harvard Business School looking for a younger class?"

Here's how the incoming class looks: we have 912 people expected to matriculate in September. 371 of these are what we call "within three years of college graduation" which means that they have graduated in 2008, 2007, 2006 and 2005. We keep track this way, not by age. About a dozen are coming right from undergraduate school - and another dozen were admitted directly from college but elected to delay matriculation in order to get some - or additional - full-time work experience. Many of the directly admitted college seniors have worked full-time already - all have had significant roles on campus or entrepreneurial experience. All directly admitted seniors are welcome to postpone their date of matriculation.

Back to the class profile and the original question. Do the numbers and I think you'll find that 541 members of the class of 2010 have been out of college for more than 3 years. That's more than the total enrollment in many business schools.

Are these numbers "quotas" or "targets"? No. We'll still do our evaluation and selection the old-fashioned way: one folder at a time. Lots of attention to the written application and mandatory interviews by invitation only. We ask the same questions about every candidate we consider: Is this person a leader? Does he/she give evidence of ability to engageenthusiastically in serious intellectual and analytical work? Will this person invest as much in the educational experience of others as in his/her own?

So the answer would be that we think you can come to Harvard Business School and thrive earlier in your career than you might have heard via the grapevine. That doesn't mean that those with more experience should be discouraged: apply when it's optimal for you. When you can look at the questions we pose and feel eager to respond, that's a good indication of readiness.

Back to the 2+2 files... enjoy summer and watch our website for our information session dates and locations. As always, I hope this is helpful.

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Re: exciting indeed

by smkrn » Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:38 am
bze265 wrote:so can we basically assume that some interview invitations will be sent by Aug. 1st?
Not necessarily (I would say). While it seems likely that interview invites will go out by the first week of August, HBS has not given any firm dates (for interview invites, that is). They might start extending them at the end of this week, or they might not start extending them until the end of the first week of August. Anything is possible at this point. But personally (from past HBS trends) I think that invites will go out next week or the week after. But that's just my own speculation.
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by smkrn » Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:45 am
If you all don't mind sharing the information, I thought it would be interesting to see the demographics of the small group of 2+2 applicants on this thread.

So if you're willing to share, are you an international or U.S. based applicant? And are you male or female?

As for me, I'm a U.S. citizen (and applied from a U.S. university) and I am male.

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by bze265 » Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:48 am
I (male) was born and raised in Belize. I transferred from a small junior college in Belize to a U.S. university last year...

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by new2mba » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:04 pm
Well, I did not apply this year, but was just introduced to this program by a exec in my firm.

Reading all your profiles and accomplishments academically really puts things in perspective. I was just starting to read up on GMAT and I came across this wonderful forum, and am hooked now. I'm just concerned about my academics as I never focused on school GPA much, but I am a Information Technology major with a measly GPA of 3.4. My time away from school was my IT firm(I started it when I was 18, almost 3 years ago), where we are involved in consulting services and software development. I'm hoping this is leverage for me as we are well known in our community and last year, we had a revenue of $1.3 million and this years projected is about $2.5 to $3 million. Like I said before, looking at some of your academic profiles, makes me wish, I went to some those class exams ( instead of meetings :? ). But anyway I hope my GMAT score , industry and international exposure, at least give me a chance.

The reason, that an MBA even cluttered my thoughts is that, in the next 2 to 4 years, we are expecting to grow globally and exponentially, taking our employee count to about 75 to 100, globally. And managing this size of a crowd from different backgrounds and aspects of life, requires maturity and academic exposure, which I hope to get from an MBA.

I will be applying next year from a reputed state university, wish all that applied this year, the best of luck and I will be glued to this spot, to hear the outcome.

Good Luck Everyone!


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by scarter » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:43 pm
I'm from Virginia, white male, attend school in southern Louisiana.

new2mba- the undergrad experience is a complex one. Leadership is required for programs such as this, and in order for your organization, venture, or vision to succeed, you'll need to attend meetings.

From my experience I recommend finding 1-2 pursuits that you feel passionate about, and immersing yourself in them. From this perspective the requisite time can be expended on an effort as you nurture it from idea to reality. The concept or organization will certainly have its ups and downs-- by starting simple you can see these trials through and also perform at a high level in class. It's when you try and do too many things that your experience in class deteriorates.

Wishing you the best in your future endeavors.

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importance of interview & other info

by nbkaqzl » Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:29 pm
Hey guys,

I am also an applicant from the US. male.

I am wondering: if someone does not get an interview, would it mean that they are not good enough for the program? or would it mean that they are too good that they don't even need to be interviewed?

In other words, does anyone get admitted without an interview?


On a separate note,

I have a piece of info to share.. My school (another large ivy league) is launching a similar program. The program will be restricted to undergrads of the school itself in the beginning. I went to an info session like 2 months ago, and the director of admissions stressed how important the GMAT score was going to be for the program. He said it is the only measure that is standardizing.. Meaning, that's the only measure that levels the playing field (being that people come from different schools, GPA is not standard; i.e. a 3.4 in UChicago is way different from a 3.4 at Harvard since Chicago has grade deflation)..

The average GMAT at my school is close to 690.. The director said: a score below 700 is gauranteed not be accepted.

This is a different school though, so the admission standard could be different.

Good luck to all.

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Re: importance of interview & other info

by legend2005 » Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:54 pm
On your first question, I'm not sure. My guess would be that everyone interviews.
nbkaqzl wrote:
I have a piece of info to share.. My school (another large ivy league) is launching a similar program. The program will be restricted to undergrads of the school itself in the beginning. I went to an info session like 2 months ago, and the director of admissions stressed how important the GMAT score was going to be for the program. He said it is the only measure that is standardizing.. Meaning, that's the only measure that levels the playing field (being that people come from different schools, GPA is not standard; i.e. a 3.4 in UChicago is way different from a 3.4 at Harvard since Chicago has grade deflation)..

The average GMAT at my school is close to 690.. The director said: a score below 700 is gauranteed not be accepted.

This is a different school though, so the admission standard could be different.
I could see this happening...particularly in the sense that programs make "piles" of 700+ GMATs, 750+ GMATs, etc. But I have trouble believing that schools will automatically eliminate all sub-700 GMAT candidates, especially those with outstanding extracurriculars or for URM (under represented minorities...which in biz school could include women).