Hi danielmb,
Couple of things that I noted while going thru your de-brief were the following:
1. You scores were not consistent
V24, Q 16
V 24, Q 36
V 30 Q 21
2. You mentioned that you would get the same problem wrong multiple times.
Step 1: Learn the concepts
Based on these two key factors I believe one of the key issues with your studying technique might be the following:
1. Before starting to answer the GMAT questions from Kaplan/OG, did you go thru all the key areas in both Maths and Verbal, and make
sure that you understand the concepts very well.
When I started studyign for the GMAT, I spent the first on emonth just clearing concepts. Learning formulas, and making sure I
understood what you mean by "paralleism, apples and oranges" etc in Verbal. Once I understood the basic concepts only then did I move forward.
I used Princeton for clearing my concepts only because it was very very easily explained, adn I was in a position where, I didnt remember anything
in Quant, and wanted to start cleaning my fundamentals from absolute scratch before starting. I kept a book one for Quant and one for verbal.
After reading every chapter (be it %ages, ratio&proportions, real numbers etc), I would write down the chapters name, and write down all the
Key points I had learnt, forumulae extra in the book. This way I remembered all the eky
I will also state that Princeton explains DS beautifully. It helped me change from someone bad in DS problems to a point where in I had become pretty good
at it. Please do make sure you go thru the Princeton maths book in great detail. I will be mailing this to you asap. Also in DS do keep this in mind
1. A number can be something other than an integer (real, or fraction). Most of the question sare trick questions, and make you assume that the number
is a integer
2. Make sure you download Erics flash cards link (it has some cool info on the Quant that I would recommend you reading)
For Princeton Verbal (in case you are in the US), I would sincerely suggest trying libraries, or going to barnes/nobles/borders, to read the book, i fyou dont wnat to buy it
Also try craigslist. I got a lot of the used books from the website. You can buy it for 1/3rd the price. What I love about the book is the simplicity
with which they try to teach you.
Finally Princeton main book (which has all quant/verbal explaination plus excercises). I used the verbal/maths bins at the end, for figuring out what my
weak areas were. I created teh spreadsheet that outlined each of the questions I got wrong and why. Only when you know where you are messing up
can you start focusing and fixing. You can get the spreadsheet form my post. It helped me figure out two things
1. I realized I had serious time managemnet issues
2. I was able to identify specifically in maths, what areas I was weak in
3. I stopped being in a hurry to just answer questions. I was more concerend about learning how to answer them right
4. Once i had gotton confident in my concepts and my abilty to answer questions right, I then focused on my timing.
It is very improtant to be planned and intelligent about your studies. Make sure for every question you get wrong, you can identify what you did wrong
fix it, and if that question was to come again, there should be no earthly way you get it wrong. IN quant its easy, in Verbal its harder. For SC in Verbal,
to fix this problem of forgetting what was right, I started making flash cards. For every quesiton I got wrong in SC I made flash cards. I used to get so many wrong
that my fingers hurt writing on the darn flash cards - but I do believe fervently, that at the end those flash cards are waht helped get better in SC. I used
my office business cards for writing the info. Th format that I used is also given in my post in the forum - do read that.
Step 2:
At the point you have finished revising all the concepts from Princeton, then moving to kaplan makes sense. Kaplan inherently is very hard. They give
hard questions much more tougher than what comes in GMAT. I used it more to revise than anything else. If I could understand and do questions from Kaplan
then there was no way I could not do OG (which is considered to be tough too)
I finished again Kaplan Maths work book/Verbal workbook - I dont think I had time to go thru the Kaplan main book. I went to OG from there (do make sure you do all the
tests of kaplan though - they are extremely tough, but very very good practise. I do believe answering the tough questions there, and understanding how to
solve it when I got it all wrong, helped me solove the tough questions that came on GMAT. Do keep in mind, anything you get wrong, you need to understand
how to do it, so that next time you *have* to get it right.
Step 3
Finally comes OG. After the fundamentals being clear and practise thru Kaplan, this is the final lap. This is to see how yu are doing/preppign for hte final exam
Here the most important thing is timing. You have to focus on yoru timing - every question here has to be time 2 mts for quant and 1.8 I think for verbal.
You should not do a single question without timing. Do the Maths/verbal work book first, and follow the same philosophy of flash cards, making sure
you revise your msitake, and timing ...
Rember in the final exam they dont let you take a watch, you ahve to use the clock on the machine, so make sure you practise with that.
1. Are your fundamentals in maths, and verbal clear? Before I started out doing any of the problems, I first spent a month going
thru all the concepts, for each area of Maths, using the Princeton Maths Workbook.
Even though I followed all the above - I had a terrible time improving - there is one post I put in the forum that I am not sure if you read, I am attaching it with this email
too as it gives a breakdown of how I tried to improve in my probelm areas specifically in verbal, and what ifnally worked for me.
The key immaterial is - dont give up, figure out your weakness and try to fix it - dont just blindly put in effort, it doesnt get the results you want
.
I really hope this helps,
Take care,
-ngufo
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You make me remember the same pain I went thru when studying for the GMAT. It was excruciating (RC, CR as well as SC) . Let me first start with a very small thing I did which helped me save crazy amount of time - took me some time to figure it out.
Before every question in verbal that I answered I would the following before even reading the question.
7.35
1. A B C D E
7.39
2. A B C D E
The 7.35, 7.39 is the time when I start to answer each question. It would give me a very good idea of how much time I had spent on each question. ( above it shows me that I had spent 4 minutes on question 1). I would know that I had spent a lot of time, and need to pace myself better. The only area I know I could save time was SC, would try to do that, plus it also helped because if I came across a particularly hard question that I knew would take me time, instead of spending another 4 minutes on it (given taht I knew I was running out of time), i would make a best guess on it sooner.
Based on what you have written, it sounds like you are already doing a good job of timing yourself - trust me that is the MOST IMPORTANT THING. Once you get your timing good, I fervently believe that half of the problem for preparing for GMAT is gone. So that is a good first step. The 1 is the question number, and The A B C D E written is the answer choices. Before even reading the question I would write the above down, (it had become a reflex with me). What I would do is that for each answer choice that I was sure is wrong, I would cross the alphabet out (THAT MEANS NO RE-READING THAT ANSWER CHOICE AGAIN). I saved precious time. The ones that had a circle on it, were the ones that could be the potential choices. Wahtever back and forth I did would be between those choices. Once I decided one was out, I would cut that out, adn continue the same process. It really helped me (because beofre, I would end up re-reading all the questions and getting confused
which was better than the other). Writing the time and the alphabets should be come a part of you, before even reading writing it on paper, and then starting!!
Now coming to the CR portion. I tried 300 different techniques . I was so screwed up - nothing seemed to work for me . I tried reading the passage, summarizing it and writing the premise and the conclusion. First reading the question then the passage -EVERYTHING. Just like you I kept asking, trying new things, NEVER GAVE UP. Finally what worked for me literally was PRACTISE. After a lot of practice I realized that "when I read the question, and then read the passage, for some reason after reading the passage I felt the need to re-read the question being asked again". I noticed that consistently at least in me. So I stopped reading the question first. I would read the passage, and keep track of the main flow. Then read teh question - based on that, it was easy to cut out 1-2 straight off the bat (on the alphabets - as I did that it saved me a lot of time). After that yes for the remaining choices, its re-reading the passage and going back and forth. The
funny thing is that over time, when you TIME EVERY CR passage that you do (I timed every question that I did in the Official Maths guide, offical verbal workbook, as well as the Official guide 10th edition). i didnt do a single question without timing it, write the alphabet, and practise cutting things off, and re-reading the remaining options) over time, I just felt I got the hang of it. It was like one day - CR questions didnt feel so painful anymore. I was able to go thru them relatively painlessly - I had my pattern built. "Immediately write the time, write the question number, write the alphabets, Read the passage well (very very focused), read the question - immediately cut the ones that dont make sense), and then go thru the process of re-reading the passage and making decisions. Once you feel comfortable with what you are diong, stick with it. If you are taking 3 minutes, but comfortable with your technique, and getting it right that is GREAT.
Just keep practising and timing. I am very sure, with enough practise, over time, it will get better. In case you are not timing every question in OG make sure you do.
SC: Dude dont try to figure out the solution before reading the answers . That will kill you - I know because that killed me too . I did the exact same for the first 3 months of practise. I HATED SC. i couldnt for the love of god figure out how the hell to get them right. Every damn answer looked good to me!!!!. princeton gave a good technique. See the underlined portion, and then immediately look at the answers (dont even TRY to figure out what should be right). When you see the choices use the 3/2 technique. Based on the answers you will see that 3 questions have similar usage, like " The children have had their dinner and gone to bed". Three choices will show you have and 2 will shwo you has. You immediately no that has is wrong. Cut your alphabets - great now you just have to figure out the remaining three. Now instead of you trying to figure out what is write, compare teh differences between the three ansewrs. Try to see what the author has done
different in those three choices. Often times that helped me figure out what was right (most times what I thought should be there never was - not sure if my english is that bad, or GMAT just sucks ).
finally make a flash card for EVERY sentence correction question you get wrong... I know that sounds crazy, but trust me, that alone helped me get very very good at SC. It was hard to remember all the idioms, all the patterns. I also have a problem of basic informatin retention. I forget things very quickly (had this problem since I was small). Read something then forget . So by making flash cards and swriting it down (I have explained how I made the flash cards), and practising the questions reguarly, I would remember how the sentence patterns were. In 6 months I had 4 big business card boxes of flash cards (used my official business cards as flash cards). I would practise them regularly. Keep in min dthe usage (try to answer without looking at th eanswer. Not by memorizing the anser, but by memorizing what was wroing - like oh there is a parallelis error here, there isan applies and oranges error here so on so forth (I used princeton verbal to learn
the fundamentals. It explains that very easily). By doing that after 6 months of lots of flash cards and lots of revising I started seeing patterns - it became much more easier. It was only then that I got the Manhattan SC book (it would have been too complicated for me earlier). Later on I was able to add on to my base with the book. (I made flash cards, of important concepts from the book too)
RC: Another painful portion for me. Probably the worst. Given my retention problem by the time I would finish reading the passage, I had completely forgotton what the hell the author was talking about . If you talk about crazy frustration and depression - this area killed me. I remember thinking of buying some mental ability tests, to help me fix my retrention issue, to help me focus. I practiced with soem tools on the web -all it helped was giving me a big headache . I tried everything possible - reading all blogs, asking for help, trying to emulate the techniques people mentioned - nothing worked. Finally with a lot of practise and trying new technique I found a way that worked for me. I realized that the first para and the last para, basically control the entire flow of the passage (introduction and summary para). The paras in middle were like e.gs, or details of some specific thing. If I could keep track of what the first and secon para was talking
about, and have a basic understanding of what was in the middle paras, I was able to do a better job of answering my RC. So when I would read, I would read the 1st and last para very carefully. The middle paras, I would skim thru. When flow/passage structure questions were asked (previously I would get them wrong, as I would be reading everything in detail, and forgetting the same after completing the passage). After my new technique I got those questions right. For questions in which they asked a specific question about the passage, it was easy enough to go and re-read a few lines to get the exact answer - BINGO. I was just so excited the day it started working for me. It happened out of the blue - one day nothing was happening the next day it just happend....
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