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During vs Within

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by Optimus Prime » Mon Sep 06, 2010 10:16 am
It is not likely that the competitive imbalance that now exists between Japan with all major industrial nations will be redressed during the foreseeable future.

(A) with all major industrial nations will be redressed during

(B) with all other major industrial nations will be redressed within

(C) with all other major industrial nations will be redressed during

(D) and all major industrial nations will be redressed during

(E) and all other major industrial nations will be redressed within

Out of D & E, which is one is better?
Please explain the usage of both during & within.Should within not be followed by some specific time limit. eg. 4 months,etc
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by selango » Mon Sep 06, 2010 10:36 am
during+time period is correct only when if we define add some information to identify time period.

So here during+within is correct.

Also note that Option E compares Japan and other major industrial nations.

Option D compares Japan with all major industrial nations which include Japan also.

Pick E
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by Maciek » Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:37 am
Hi all!

we have 3 problems in this SC question.

1. Corrrect idiom is 'between X and Y'
Therefore, we should eliminate answers A, B, C

For example: "The blind couldn't see the difference between day and night"

2. Correct expression is 'within the foreseeable future'
'during' means 'within the limit of (a period of time)'
For example: "They are going to play soccer during the summer"
'within' means 'before (a period of time) has elapsed'
For example: "He will have a report finished within a week"
Hence, we should eliminate answer D.
Answer E is correct.

3. 'all other' vs. 'all'
Here the author suggests that Japan is also major economy

Hope it helps!
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by e-GMAT » Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:31 am
Original Sentence = It is not likely that the competitive imbalance that now exists between Japan with all major industrial nations will be redressed during the foreseeable future.

As Maciek pointed out, there is one error in the original choice - Idiom - between..and. Based on this error, choices A, B, and C are eliminated.

(A) with all major industrial nations will be redressed during

(B) with all other major industrial nations will be redressed within

(C) with all other major industrial nations will be redressed during


Now we are down to choices D and E. At this point, I would like to say that this is not truly a representation of OG style questions. The differences between Choice D and E are as follows:

(D) and all major industrial nations will be redressed during

(E) and all other major industrial nations will be redressed within


Comparison - In D - Japan being compared to all major nations; in E Japan being compared to all other major nations. However, in Choice A, Japan is being compared to all major nations. Now we know that comparisons must be logically and grammatically parallel. Thus, having the knowledge of whether Japan is a developed country or not is required to decide whether the comparison is logical or not. I believe that such an exercise is outside the scope of a typical SC question. I am curious as to what is the source of this question and what is the OA.

Use of During Vs Within - Maciek has correctly noted the usage of during and within using the two examples. In these two examples, during and within are non-interchangeable. However, I feel that there are sentences in which during and within can be used interchangeably. For example:

Tom will complete his report during the course of next 8 hours.
Tom will complete his report within the next 8 hours.


In the examples above, there is a slight difference in the emphasis of sentence. The sentence with during simply states a fact about when Tom will complete his report. The sentence with "within" emphasizes on the time limit. But both are correct.

Similarly, in the context of the sentence in question, both during and within will work. Thus, I am unable to eliminate one vs. the other.

Lastly and most importantly, I have not seen any question in OG12 that tests the usage of during vs. within. Infact, I have found several questions which use the word "during" in the underlined portion of the sentence, but does not include any answer choice with "within" to test the difference in the usage of these words.

Long story short, please do not sweat over this question as long as you got the between..and idiom correct.
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by nk_81 » Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:40 am
Although I agree with the explanation as I too was stuck between D & E..... if we were to pick an answer I would go with "D" as an answer because in my opinion "within" can be used only if you have a "time range" and foreseeable future does not define any time range.

Do I make sense?
NK
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by aspirant2011 » Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:21 pm
I am confused between D and E but acc to me with in should be used when there is a time range............question says "not likely" and "forseeable future" which is not a specified time range, so I would have also gone for D...........wats the OA?+
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