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by 786 » Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:31 am
The engineer identified the problem using the latest technology.
The engineer identified the problem , using the latest technology.

What is the difference?
Does the first mean that the problem itself is using the latest technology ?

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by aspirant2011 » Sun Sep 18, 2011 8:31 am
786 wrote:The engineer identified the problem using the latest technology.
The engineer identified the problem , using the latest technology.

What is the difference?
Does the first mean that the problem itself is using the latest technology ?

Can some expert confirm ?
I don't find any problem with the first sentence..........

In second, using the latest technology is acting as a modifier
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by Abhishek009 » Sun Sep 18, 2011 8:51 am
786 wrote:The engineer identified the problem using the latest technology.
The engineer identified the problem , using the latest technology.

What is the difference?
Does the first mean that the problem itself is using the latest technology ?

Can some expert confirm ?
I feel the same....

The first sentence seems like the problem is with the latest technology , whereas the second sentence means the problem was identified using the latest technology...
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by gunjan1208 » Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:46 pm
I will say that A is perfect.

For B. It is right. Aslo being the modifier, we can place this modifier in the begining.
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by dhonu121 » Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:54 am
Both are correct here.
Basically a comma is used when two indepedent clauses are joined by a conjunction and a comma is used before the use of the conjunction.The use of comma there is optional.
In cases where a dependent and an independent clause are joined by a conjunction, use of comma is mandatory.
In cases where the second clause uses the subject of the first clause use of comma before the conjunction is wrong.
For eg:He went to school and he had lunch there. is same as He went to the school, and he had lunch there.

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He went to the school and had lunch there is not the same as He went to the school, and had lunch there.
The second sentence in this case is wrong.
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by GmatKiss » Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:57 am
aspirant2011 wrote:
786 wrote:The engineer identified the problem using the latest technology.
The engineer identified the problem , using the latest technology.

What is the difference?
Does the first mean that the problem itself is using the latest technology ?

Can some expert confirm ?
I don't find any problem with the first sentence..........

In second, using the latest technology is acting as a modifier
+1, both are correct.
In the second, emphasis is more on "the latest technology"
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by saketk » Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:24 am
I also feel so. the intended meaning is same in both the cases.

Grammatically also both are correct.
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by Jim@Grockit » Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:43 am
The problem is that you can run into sentences like:

On my way to work I saw a chimpanzee riding my bicycle.

Was I riding my bicycle, or was a chimpanzee?

Grammatically, "riding" tends to default to the noun chimpanzee if it can, since it is closer. This is a problem with modifiers in general -- they should be as close as possible to the thing they modify, for clarity. The old joke goes "I met a man with a wooden leg named Paul." "Oh, really? What was the name of the other leg?"

In other words, it's grammatically correct but potentially confusing.
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by 786 » Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:04 am
@ Jim ,

So do you want to say that , in the two examples i quoted , the first sentence is incorrect ?
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by Jim@Grockit » Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:08 am
786 wrote:@ Jim ,

So do you want to say that , in the two examples i quoted , the first sentence is incorrect ?
I think it would likely be incorrect on the GMAT because it is unclear. I would expect the correct GMAT sentence to be Using the latest technology, the engineer identified the problem or, even better, The engineer identified the problem by using the latest technology.
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