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by Mani_mba » Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:58 am
In Malsenia sales of classical records are soaring. The buyers responsible for this boom are quite new to classical music and were drawn to it either by classical scores from television commercials or by theme tunes introducing major sports events on television. Audiences at classical concerts, however, are continually shrinking in Malsenia. It can be concluded from this that the new Malsenian converts to classical music, having initially experienced this music as recorded music, are most comfortable with classical music as recorded music and really have no desire to hear live performances.
The argument assumes which one of the following?
(A) To sell well in Malsenia, a classical record must include at least one piece familiar from television.
(B) At least some of the new Malsenian buyers of classical records have available to them the option of attending classical concerts.
(C) The number of classical concerts performed in Malsenia has not decreased in response to smaller audiences.
(D) The classical records available in Malsenia are, for the most part, not recordings of actual public concerts.
(E) Classical concerts in Malsenia are not limited to music that is readily available on recordings.

Please provide your answers with justification. I don't have an OA so i request experts also to participate and provide the solution.
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by raunekk » Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:29 am
imo:B

If they have option to attend the concert then only it can be concluded that they like recorded classical music..

If they cant attend the concerts.. then they dont have any other option then to listen to classical records..this weakens the conclusion.
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by niraj_a » Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:40 am
IMO D, as the new enthusiasts would probably not want to go to a concert when they can get the same material in a recording.

this is a hard question, what's the source?
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by sibbineni » Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:57 am
imo B
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by niraj_a » Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:40 am
actually now that i think about it, D is wrong. i see now how B makes sense.

raunekk, any advice on how to nail these on the real day?
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by raunekk » Sat Aug 16, 2008 10:24 am
@ niraj_a

hi

As CR bible says,in assumption question..Neva ignore the choice that starts with "At least"...

Just use the negation rule on them..95% of the time they are correct(source CR bible)..If it doesnt help then go to other choices..!!

i directly went to option B, used the negation rule and it worked,,:)
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by niraj_a » Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:42 am
that's a super sweet point you have there!

the CR Bible you mention is the Powerscore LSAT one correct? I'm at the Weakening section in that one.

could you tell me which book if that isn't the Bible you were referring to?
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by raunekk » Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:22 pm
@niraj_a

Its "Gmat CR bible" by powerscore... its same as "LSAT powerscore"..just a change of name...(content in almost same)...

Though lengthy it does give a few genuine points....:)

I hope this helps....

thanks.
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by stop@800 » Sun Aug 17, 2008 7:55 am
New people are buying the records and attendence at live concerts is decreasing. So no desire to hear live.
Assumption??

A: Can not be the answer we need to find assumption wrt declining attendence.
C: Even if concerts has decreased still ppl have option to go to so can't be the answer
E: This tell what concerts are but still no pointer towards assumption

B D revolve around the answer.
D: Even oif records are recording of concerts still there is difference between live performance and erecording so D is wrong.
So answer should be B

Let me know if still thr are some gaps

I also would like to know sourse of some difficult questions like this...
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by supershick » Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:10 pm
Gonna have to go with B but I didn't use any of the strategy you guys outlined.

Can you guys explain the negation rule and how you used that to come to the conclusion (B)?

I just came to B because it made logical sense in my head, lol....well, also after writing down on paper the conclusion and evidence, (B) seemed like the best answer.

but there has to be a faster way!
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by Jason11 » Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:34 pm
C

If the number of classical concerts performed in Malsenia has decreased, then you can't say that the audiences had no desire. They still have somewhat desire. The reason of the shrinking is the decreased number of classical concerts not the recorded music.
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Re: Classical Records

by kiranlegend » Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:26 am
Mani_mba wrote:In Malsenia sales of classical records are soaring. The buyers responsible for this boom are quite new to classical music and were drawn to it either by classical scores from television commercials or by theme tunes introducing major sports events on television. Audiences at classical concerts, however, are continually shrinking in Malsenia. It can be concluded from this that the new Malsenian converts to classical music, having initially experienced this music as recorded music, are most comfortable with classical music as recorded music and really have no desire to hear live performances.
The argument assumes which one of the following?
(A) To sell well in Malsenia, a classical record must include at least one piece familiar from television.
(B) At least some of the new Malsenian buyers of classical records have available to them the option of attending classical concerts.
(C) The number of classical concerts performed in Malsenia has not decreased in response to smaller audiences.
(D) The classical records available in Malsenia are, for the most part, not recordings of actual public concerts.
(E) Classical concerts in Malsenia are not limited to music that is readily available on recordings.

Please provide your answers with justification. I don't have an OA so i request experts also to participate and provide the solution.
IMO B or C

applying negation on C weakens the argument.. hence C is the stronger assumption between the two.. any thoughts?
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Re: Classical Records

by codesnooker » Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:33 pm
kiranlegend wrote:
Mani_mba wrote:In Malsenia sales of classical records are soaring. The buyers responsible for this boom are quite new to classical music and were drawn to it either by classical scores from television commercials or by theme tunes introducing major sports events on television. Audiences at classical concerts, however, are continually shrinking in Malsenia. It can be concluded from this that the new Malsenian converts to classical music, having initially experienced this music as recorded music, are most comfortable with classical music as recorded music and really have no desire to hear live performances.
The argument assumes which one of the following?
(A) To sell well in Malsenia, a classical record must include at least one piece familiar from television.
(B) At least some of the new Malsenian buyers of classical records have available to them the option of attending classical concerts.
(C) The number of classical concerts performed in Malsenia has not decreased in response to smaller audiences.
(D) The classical records available in Malsenia are, for the most part, not recordings of actual public concerts.
(E) Classical concerts in Malsenia are not limited to music that is readily available on recordings.

Please provide your answers with justification. I don't have an OA so i request experts also to participate and provide the solution.
IMO B or C

applying negation on C weakens the argument.. hence C is the stronger assumption between the two.. any thoughts?
Hi KL,

Don't you think that if we choose option (C) as our assumption, then it weakens the conclusion. I guess we need to find the conclusion that supports the author's conclusion. So, I think (B) should be fit in this condition.

Author's Conclusion: The people are interested to listen the classical records rather than watching the live performance.
Please let me know, if I am getting it wrong.

So, if we choose option (C) as our assumption, then IMO it fails to consider the part of the conclusion that people are interested in listening the records. However, (B) fills that gap.

What's your opinion?

Thanks,
CodeSnooker
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by anju » Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:47 pm
raunekk wrote:imo:B

If they have option to attend the concert then only it can be concluded that they like recorded classical music..

If they cant attend the concerts.. then they dont have any other option then to listen to classical records..this weakens the conclusion.
Can you pls. elaborate this more. How is the negation weakning the conclusion. If they can't attend the concerts, then they are listening to classical records and hence the new Malsenian converts are more comfortable with listening to recorded music than to visit live performance. it's rather strengthening.?
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by linfongyu » Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:34 pm
I know the OA is C, but I just can't seem to get that to work in my head. I chose B, and after reading many "explanations" on why it should be C, I still think it's B because I'm not convinced.

If you negate C, and the assumption becomes, "The number of classical concerts performed in Malsenia has decreased in response to smaller audiences." The argument still stands! For example, Malsenia had 54 classical concerts a year, one every weekend, and the concerts decreased to 50 a year due to shrinking attendance. There are still plenty of opportunity for the newly converted classical music listeners to attend these concerts, if they so wish...

On the other hand, if you negate B, and the assumption becomes, "None of the new Malsenian buyers of classical records have available to them the option of attending classical concerts." Maybe they live on the side of Malsenia that's war-torn, maybe they do not have the discretionary income to do so, or maybe their religion forbids them to attend live concerts, whatever the reason, they don't have the option. The argument crumbles. It is not the "lack of desire" but rather the "lack of option" that the new classical-music-converts of Malsenia choose recorded music over live performances.

I still think B is correct, until someone can convince me otherwise.
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