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crowmale: Newbie | Next Rank: 10 Posts; Posts: 7; Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:57 am

by crowmale » Sat Mar 03, 2007 1:23 am

folks,

I can not understand the answers to this question.. it really sounds awkard to me

Question # 5
The Prime Minister was so moved by the performance of the talented residents << from the orphanage that he decided to offer them jobs >> as soon as they completed their education.

(A) from the orphanage that he decided to offer them jobs

(B) of the orphanage as to offer them jobs

(C) from the orphanage as to offer them jobs

(D) of the orphanage that he decided to offer them a job

(E) of the orphanage as to offer them a job

Your Answer : A
Actual Answer : B

Explanation
'so moved……as to offer' is the best possible construction for a sentence like this.

Also, 'residents of the orphanage' is correct, not 'residents from.'

Lastly, it has to be 'jobs' and not 'a job' – the residents would obviously be put to different jobs and not the same one.

Hence (B) is the correct answer.

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by amitamit2020 » Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:46 am

I agree with crown = the correct answer should be 'B' -- where is this question from?

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by Stacey Koprince » Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:04 am

Please do post the source for any questions you post.

This question relies on knowledge of idioms. Idioms, unfortunately, are just a "you know it or you don't" situation - there are thousands of them in the language and they're just a rote memorization item. There aren't rules to follow.

One idiom is "so X as to Y" or "so X as to be Y." It sounds funny b/c it's not something we really use on a daily basis... but it's correct.

Another set of idioms has to do with the correct preposition to use in various circumstances - in this case, "residents of the orphanage" is the correct idiom, not "residents from the orphanage." Again, this is just a memorization thing - you either know it or you don't.

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by Cybermusings » Wed Apr 11, 2007 4:49 am

We never use "residents" with "from"...Sample this...Residents of the town...residents of the building...Hence eliminate choice A & C
D & E; we can't use the singular "job" since the Prime Minister is offering it to residents (which is plural)
Hence B

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by reply2spg » Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:45 pm

In this SC I have a question that how can one job might be offered to residents? There should be multiple jobs for many residents

Does that make sense with A?

crowmale wrote:folks,

I can not understand the answers to this question.. it really sounds awkard to me

Question # 5
The Prime Minister was so moved by the performance of the talented residents << from the orphanage that he decided to offer them jobs >> as soon as they completed their education.

(A) from the orphanage that he decided to offer them jobs

(B) of the orphanage as to offer them jobs

(C) from the orphanage as to offer them jobs

(D) of the orphanage that he decided to offer them a job

(E) of the orphanage as to offer them a job

Your Answer : A
Actual Answer : B

Explanation
'so movedï¿½ï¿½as to offer' is the best possible construction for a sentence like this.

Also, 'residents of the orphanage' is correct, not 'residents from.'

Lastly, it has to be 'jobs' and not 'a job' ï¿½ the residents would obviously be put to different jobs and not the same one.

Hence (B) is the correct answer.

Sudhanshu
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by kvcpk » Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:18 pm

Can someone help in understanding why D is incorrect here?

So X that Y is also a right idiom.

Moreover, The prime minister might have chosen to offer all of them a collective job (Some team work activity), which he refers to as "offer them a job "

Am I missing something?

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by selango » Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:08 am

Praveen,

If PM decided to offer them a job(ie) collective work,then it is "the job".

"the job" is singular and clear in meaning..But here "a job " is used..

Am I right?

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by kvcpk » Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:05 am

selango wrote:Praveen,

If PM decided to offer them a job(ie) collective work,then it is "the job".

"the job" is singular and clear in meaning..But here "a job " is used..

Am I right?

Anand, I believe "the job" and "a job" are both singular.
Difference is that "a job" refers to any single job and "the job" refers to a particular Job.
Something that the PM is referring to in particular.

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by Stacey Koprince » Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:11 am

Received a PM asking me to respond. Yes, you guys have got it.

"The job" can refer to, say, a big project that requires many people to perform different jobs. Also, you wouldn't just suddenly start saying "the job" (meaning multiple jobs in a project) without specifying. We have a project to renovate our house, and we interviewed three contractors. We offered the job to the second contractor. See that? I've specified in my first sentence that we're actually talking about a project comprised of multiple jobs.

A job, on the other hand, is ONE job. (Technically, again, you could find a way to use it in reference to a big project - but without any additional info about that, you're talking about one job.)

And, as you guys noted above, you can't offer many people one job - well, you can, but only one person is going to get that particular job. That's not so helpful for all of those other people.

kvcpk, "so X that Y" is also an idiom, yes. But the two that use this idiom (A and D) are wrong for other reasons ("from" and "a job").

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by kvcpk » Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:15 am

Stacey Koprince wrote:Received a PM asking me to respond. Yes, you guys have got it.

"The job" can refer to, say, a big project that requires many people to perform different jobs. Also, you wouldn't just suddenly start saying "the job" (meaning multiple jobs in a project) without specifying. We have a project to renovate our house, and we interviewed three contractors. We offered the job to the second contractor. See that? I've specified in my first sentence that we're actually talking about a project comprised of multiple jobs.

A job, on the other hand, is ONE job. (Technically, again, you could find a way to use it in reference to a big project - but without any additional info about that, you're talking about one job.)

And, as you guys noted above, you can't offer many people one job - well, you can, but only one person is going to get that particular job. That's not so helpful for all of those other people.

kvcpk, "so X that Y" is also an idiom, yes. But the two that use this idiom (A and D) are wrong for other reasons ("from" and "a job").

Thanks Stacey for the confirmation!!

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by ankurmit » Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:53 am

I also selected D.

I was not aware of this idiom..Thanks Stancy

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