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by bupbebeo » Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:35 pm
As the etched lines on computer memory chips have become thinner and the chips' circuits more complex,
both the power of the chips and the electronic devices they drive have vastly increased.

(A) the chips' circuits more complex, both the power of the chips and the electronic devices they drive have
(B) the chips' circuits more complex, the power of both the chips and the electronic devices they drive has
(C) the chips' circuits are more complex, both the power of the chips and the electronic devices they drive has
(D) their circuits are more complex, the power of both the chips and the electronic devices they drive have
(E) their circuits more complex, both the power of the chips and the electronic devices they drive have


The OA is B. But I do not know why because " the chips' circuits more complex" lacks a verb to parallel with the former phrase. anyone can help?
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by pradeepkaushal9518 » Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:41 pm
power of both or both of the power ?

since here we are talking about the power of chips and the electronics derive hence the power of both is correct

A,C,E are out and out of B and D we have to choose has/have since power is singular so has should be choosen so B must be the answer. dont post OA unless some discussion moves on
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by bupbebeo » Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:50 pm
pradeepkaushal9518 wrote:power of both or both of the power ?

since here we are talking about the power of chips and the electronics derive hence the power of both is correct

A,C,E are out and out of B and D we have to choose has/have since power is singular so has should be choosen so B must be the answer. dont post OA unless some discussion moves on
you haven't yet explained why " Chips' circuits more complex" is right. I think it should have a verb to parallel with the former phrase.
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by loi.fu.yogi » Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:25 pm
1. 3/2 split.
2. Second part of the sentence starts with Power of (2) and both (3)
3. 'Power of' should be followed by singular verb 'has' - eliminate d.
4. 'Both x and y' should be followed by plural verb 'have' - eliminate c.
5. E has ambiguous pronoun . 'Their' has couple of antecedents 'Etched lines' and 'Memory chips' - eliminate e.
6. A is of the form 'Both X and Y have'. In such forms i believe X and Y seperately should make meaningful sentence. I believe '[number of] electronic' would have been more apt to make a meaningful sentence.
7. B the 'power of both X and Y has' has no errors. hence B.
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by bupbebeo » Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:28 pm
loi.fu.yogi wrote:1. 3/2 split.
2. Second part of the sentence starts with Power of (3) and both (2)
3. 'Power of' should be followed by singular verb 'has' - eliminate d.
4. 'Both x and y' should be followed by plural verb 'have' - eliminate c.
5. E has ambiguous pronoun . 'Their' has couple of antecedents 'Etched lines' and 'Memory chips' - eliminate e.
6. A is of the form 'Both X and Y have'. In such forms i believe X and Y seperately should make meaningful sentence. I believe '[number of] electronic' would have been more apt to make a meaningful sentence.
7. B the 'power of both X and Y has' has no errors. hence B.
Could you tell me what is 3/2 split
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by mohit11 » Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:12 am
bupbebeo wrote:As the etched lines on computer memory chips have become thinner and the chips' circuits more complex,
both the power of the chips and the electronic devices they drive have vastly increased.

(A) the chips' circuits more complex, both the power of the chips and the electronic devices they drive have
(B) the chips' circuits more complex, the power of both the chips and the electronic devices they drive has
(C) the chips' circuits are more complex, both the power of the chips and the electronic devices they drive has
(D) their circuits are more complex, the power of both the chips and the electronic devices they drive have
(E) their circuits more complex, both the power of the chips and the electronic devices they drive have


The OA is B. But I do not know why because " the chips' circuits more complex" lacks a verb to parallel with the former phrase. anyone can help?

Here the split is between the usage of has and have

AND is the only conjunction that can join two object and create a complex subject. Hence our verb will agree to the subject closest to the verb. Here Power is singular so we should use HAS and not have.

Down to B and C. Usage of "are" in "the chips' circuits are more complex" is incorrect. Hence B is our answer.
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by paes » Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:31 am
mohit11 wrote:
bupbebeo wrote:As the etched lines on computer memory chips have become thinner and the chips' circuits more complex,
both the power of the chips and the electronic devices they drive have vastly increased.

(A) the chips' circuits more complex, both the power of the chips and the electronic devices they drive have
(B) the chips' circuits more complex, the power of both the chips and the electronic devices they drive has
(C) the chips' circuits are more complex, both the power of the chips and the electronic devices they drive has
(D) their circuits are more complex, the power of both the chips and the electronic devices they drive have
(E) their circuits more complex, both the power of the chips and the electronic devices they drive have


The OA is B. But I do not know why because " the chips' circuits more complex" lacks a verb to parallel with the former phrase. anyone can help?

Here the split is between the usage of has and have

AND is the only conjunction that can join two object and create a complex subject. Hence our verb will agree to the subject closest to the verb. Here Power is singular so we should use HAS and not have.

Down to B and C. Usage of "are" in "the chips' circuits are more complex" is incorrect. Hence B is our answer.
Why 'chip's circuits are more complex' is incorrect ?
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by loveusonu » Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:10 am
paes wrote: Why 'chip's circuits are more complex' is incorrect ?
there are 2 plural nouns over here:
1>etched lines
2>computer memory chips

their become ambiguous, hence we used Chip's(noun) to remove the ambiguity over here.

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by ansumania » Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:30 am
so, pl. clarify which would be correct....

- both the power of the chips and the electronic devices thy drive has / have.......

- the power of both the chips and the elecvtronic devices thy drive has/have......

pl. pick on in both the case with explanation.

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by loveusonu » Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:39 pm
ansumania wrote:so, pl. clarify which would be correct....

- both the power of the chips and the electronic devices thy drive has / have.......

- the power of both the chips and the elecvtronic devices thy drive has/have......

pl. pick on in both the case with explanation.

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"both X and Y" IDIOM is applicable in both scenario. Here you have narrow down based on meaning

Lets take 2 cases:
1>the power of Both X & Y: where X=chips & Y=electronic devices -->seems correct, the power of chips and the power of ec devices..

2>Both X & Y: where X=the power of chips & Y=electronic devices -->Doesn't sound logical to me.


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by thephoenix » Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:45 pm
ansumania wrote:so, pl. clarify which would be correct....

- both the power of the chips and the electronic devices thy drive has / have.......

- the power of both the chips and the elecvtronic devices thy drive has/have......

pl. pick on in both the case with explanation.

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when subject is both X and Y the verb will be a plural because its a compund subject
eG: Both the staff and the executive were absent today
but in second case both X and Y is a sub of prepositional phrase and hence is not the main sub;the main sub is the power of ,which is singular and will take a singular sub has
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by thephoenix » Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:45 pm
bupbebeo wrote:As the etched lines on computer memory chips have become thinner and the chips' circuits more complex,
both the power of the chips and the electronic devices they drive have vastly increased.

(A) the chips' circuits more complex, both the power of the chips and the electronic devices they drive have
(B) the chips' circuits more complex, the power of both the chips and the electronic devices they drive has
(C) the chips' circuits are more complex, both the power of the chips and the electronic devices they drive has
(D) their circuits are more complex, the power of both the chips and the electronic devices they drive have
(E) their circuits more complex, both the power of the chips and the electronic devices they drive have


The OA is B. But I do not know why because " the chips' circuits more complex" lacks a verb to parallel with the former phrase. anyone can help?
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