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by yserious » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:15 pm
Unlike lions and tigers, whose hyoid bones vibrate loosely to create their trademark roars, the hyoid bones of
domestic felines do not move and so housecats cannot roar.
"¢ whose hyoid bones vibrate loosely to create their trademark roars, the hyoid bones of domestic felines
"¢ whose hyoid bones vibrate loosely to create the cats' trademark roars, domestic felines have hyoid bones that
"¢ whose hyoid bones vibrate loosely to create the cats' trademark roars, the hyoid bones of domestic felines
"¢ who have hyoid bones that vibrate loosely to create their trademark roars, domestic felines have hyoid bones that
"¢ which have loosely vibrating hyoid bones that create their trademark roars, domestic felines have hyoid bones that

Unlike lions and tigers, which can be roaring by causing its hyoid bones to vibrate, domestic cats have fixed hyoid
bones and are therefore unable to roar.
"¢ which can be roaring by causing its hyoid bones to vibrate, domestic cats
"¢ which can roar by causing their hyoid bones to vibrate, domestic cats
"¢ who can roar by causing their hyoid bones to vibrate, domestic cats differently
"¢ who can roar by causing its hyoid bones to vibrate, domestic cats
"¢ of which the hyoid bones vibrate to cause a roar, domestic cats



OAs are B and B.

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by hrishi19884 » Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:20 pm
Here is the CATCH

You must understand "personification" here.

When I refer to a specific group of animals or specific animal ------> I must use who

When I refer to animals in general or any animal regardless of its category ----->I must use which.

For example :

Elephant is huge creature which has large trunks. ---> I am not specifying to a particular animal here.

The lion who killed people last month has been found. ----->particular lion.

In your sentence, Lions,tigers and felines are compared from specific group "cats".

Here, I am referring to lions and tigers from that particular group and not from any other group in case it exists.
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by mehravikas » Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:24 pm
B is the best choice. D and E are other close ones but "their" is ambiguous in D and E.

I think we can use "which", "whose", "who" for animals depending on the sentence structure. For exmaple, in this sentence D and E would be correct if "their" is replaced by "cats'"

Please correct if I am wrong.
yserious wrote:Unlike lions and tigers, whose hyoid bones vibrate loosely to create their trademark roars, the hyoid bones of
domestic felines do not move and so housecats cannot roar.
"¢ whose hyoid bones vibrate loosely to create their trademark roars, the hyoid bones of domestic felines
"¢ whose hyoid bones vibrate loosely to create the cats' trademark roars, domestic felines have hyoid bones that
"¢ whose hyoid bones vibrate loosely to create the cats' trademark roars, the hyoid bones of domestic felines
"¢ who have hyoid bones that vibrate loosely to create their trademark roars, domestic felines have hyoid bones that
"¢ which have loosely vibrating hyoid bones that create their trademark roars, domestic felines have hyoid bones that


OAs are B and B.

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by yserious » Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:27 am
Guess both of you are right here!!
We would need personification here to identify the actual animal!
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by yserious » Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:28 am
mehravikas wrote:B is the best choice. D and E are other close ones but "their" is ambiguous in D and E.

I think we can use "which", "whose", "who" for animals depending on the sentence structure. For exmaple, in this sentence D and E would be correct if "their" is replaced by "cats'"

Please correct if I am wrong.
yserious wrote:Unlike lions and tigers, whose hyoid bones vibrate loosely to create their trademark roars, the hyoid bones of
domestic felines do not move and so housecats cannot roar.
"¢ whose hyoid bones vibrate loosely to create their trademark roars, the hyoid bones of domestic felines
"¢ whose hyoid bones vibrate loosely to create the cats' trademark roars, domestic felines have hyoid bones that
"¢ whose hyoid bones vibrate loosely to create the cats' trademark roars, the hyoid bones of domestic felines
"¢ who have hyoid bones that vibrate loosely to create their trademark roars, domestic felines have hyoid bones that
"¢ which have loosely vibrating hyoid bones that create their trademark roars, domestic felines have hyoid bones that


OAs have been quoted earlier - B and B


OAs are B and B.

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by hrishi19884 » Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:28 am
THANKS BUDDY!
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by hrishi19884 » Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:29 am
NO ISSUE, YOU ARE RIGHT!
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by heshamelaziry » Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:53 am
The lion who killed people last month has been found. ----->particular lion.


I have been studying since June and read Stacy Koprince and Ron take on this; they say that WHO is only used to refer to humans. Also, I have never come across WHO used to refer to anything other than humans. Thus, I do not think that the above example is correct.
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by hrishi19884 » Wed Dec 23, 2009 11:24 am
heshamelaziry, then what should be the answer according to you?
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by heshamelaziry » Wed Dec 23, 2009 11:29 am
hrishi19884 wrote:heshamelaziry, then what should be the answer according to you?

Hi hrishi19884.

I agree that the answer to the second question is B, because it uses WHICH. My previous comment was on your example that WHO can be used to refer to nouns other than humans in certain constructions.
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by Testluv » Wed Dec 23, 2009 11:31 am
To the best of my knowledge, "who" can also be used to refer to pets.
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by hrishi19884 » Wed Dec 23, 2009 11:37 am
heshamelaziry,

I am asking you the answer for the 1st part(1st question) which says : "whose hyoid bones vibrate loosely to create the cats trademark roars, domestic felines have hyoid bones that"

Testluv, What answer can you suggest for the 1st question? Appreciate, if you could justify?
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by heshamelaziry » Wed Dec 23, 2009 11:45 am
hrishi19884 wrote:heshamelaziry,

I am asking you the answer for the 1st part(1st question) which says : "whose hyoid bones vibrate loosely to create the cats trademark roars, domestic felines have hyoid bones that"

Testluv, What answer can you suggest for the 1st question? Appreciate, if you could justify?

The only good choices for the first question are B and E. The only difference I see is the usage of simple present verb in B opposite to usage of a gerund in E. Gmat prefers simple present when nothing else is wrong with the sentences. So, B.
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by Testluv » Wed Dec 23, 2009 11:48 am
hrishi19884 wrote:heshamelaziry,

I am asking you the answer for the 1st part(1st question) which says : "whose hyoid bones vibrate loosely to create the cats trademark roars, domestic felines have hyoid bones that"

Testluv, What answer can you suggest for the 1st question? Appreciate, if you could justify?
Well, I agree with the OA. Is there any part of B that is bothering you? I think B is more active, less wordy than A.

I think Hesham is right about the example, and you would say "the lion WHICH killed..."

You really don't use "who" for things other than humans (rare exception: pets. But that probably won't show up on the GMAT).

Now, "whose" is a bit different. "Whose" can be used for people, animals, and even inanimate objects. EX: "A theory whose central tenets presuppose too many hypothetical elements is likely incorrect."
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by hrishi19884 » Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:11 pm
Thanks Testluv! I got it! Will take care of that next time!
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