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by mundasingh123 » Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:07 am
Frankenstein wrote:
As can be used to connect a phrase to a clause .
Hi,
Clause follows 'as' is well known. As far as I know, 'as' can be followed only by prepositional phrases, not other forms of phrases.
Did you read the example that i posted from MGMAT SC Guide . Pg 255 .
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by Frankenstein » Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:11 am
mundasingh123 wrote:
Frankenstein wrote:
As can be used to connect a phrase to a clause .
Hi,
Clause follows 'as' is well known. As far as I know, 'as' can be followed only by prepositional phrases, not other forms of phrases.
Did you read the example that i posted from MGMAT SC Guide . Pg 255 .
Hi,
Did you mean - As in this case , the number of students getting into Bschools continue to be determined by the economic situation. ?
If so, yes. 'in this case' is a prepositional phrase. That is exactly what I mentioned.
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by mundasingh123 » Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:12 am
gmat25 wrote:
mundasingh123 wrote:
gmat25 wrote:Op A is correct

"Although" is a subordinating conjunction and initiates a dependent clause. A clause must contain a subject and verb, hence Drop Op B, D and E.

Op C is wrong because of pronoun THEY. I believe the requirement is to complete those advanced courses not just the courses. THEY refer to courses and incorrect.

Op A: you may ask, pronoun IT is referring to what??? well i believe this is INTRODUCTORY IT.

Ex: -- It is raining. ----> this ex is correct. here IT is called introductory it


Same is the case in OP A hence correct
Are you are a native speaker of English
No i'm not a native speaker...what made u think so????
You seemed to be comfortable with idioms and aspects of awkwardness that dont follow any rules
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by mundasingh123 » Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:13 am
Frankenstein wrote:
mundasingh123 wrote:
Frankenstein wrote:
As can be used to connect a phrase to a clause .
Hi,
Clause follows 'as' is well known. As far as I know, 'as' can be followed only by prepositional phrases, not other forms of phrases.
Did you read the example that i posted from MGMAT SC Guide . Pg 255 .
Hi,
Did you mean - As in this case , the number of students getting into Bschools continue to be determined by the economic situation. ?
If so, yes. 'in this case' is a prepositional phrase. That is exactly what I mentioned.
I think of you as my friend.
Here, as is not followed by a preposition . Again source MGMAT SC Guide
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by Frankenstein » Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:21 am
mundasingh123 wrote:
Frankenstein wrote:
mundasingh123 wrote:
Frankenstein wrote:
As can be used to connect a phrase to a clause .
Hi,
Clause follows 'as' is well known. As far as I know, 'as' can be followed only by prepositional phrases, not other forms of phrases.
Did you read the example that i posted from MGMAT SC Guide . Pg 255 .
Hi,
Did you mean - As in this case , the number of students getting into Bschools continue to be determined by the economic situation. ?
If so, yes. 'in this case' is a prepositional phrase. That is exactly what I mentioned.
I think of you as my friend.
Here, as is not followed by a preposition . Again source MGMAT SC Guide
Hi,
Yes, it is a conjunction. I didn't disagree with that. But prepositional phrase is not an actual phrase.
It is preposition + (modifier) + noun/pronoun/gerund/clause.
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by Frankenstein » Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:25 am
I think of you as my friend.
Here, as is not followed by a preposition . Again source MGMAT SC Guide
See, here 'as' is used as an adverb, not conjunction.
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by mundasingh123 » Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:26 am
It is preposition + (modifier) + noun/pronoun/gerund/clause.Was this a typo ?
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by gmat25 » Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:26 am
mundasingh123 wrote:
gmat25 wrote:
mundasingh123 wrote:
gmat25 wrote:Op A is correct

"Although" is a subordinating conjunction and initiates a dependent clause. A clause must contain a subject and verb, hence Drop Op B, D and E.

Op C is wrong because of pronoun THEY. I believe the requirement is to complete those advanced courses not just the courses. THEY refer to courses and incorrect.

Op A: you may ask, pronoun IT is referring to what??? well i believe this is INTRODUCTORY IT.

Ex: -- It is raining. ----> this ex is correct. here IT is called introductory it


Same is the case in OP A hence correct
Are you are a native speaker of English
No i'm not a native speaker...what made u think so????
You seemed to be comfortable with idioms and aspects of awkwardness that dont follow any rules
Hahaa...well so far i solved around 1800-2000 question in SC. It just experience and nothing else. Sometimes i'm correct and sometimes not, though i love to solve the SC's which are based on set rules but awkwardness and idioms are also a part of GMAT, so can't help it.
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by gmat25 » Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:28 am
AS can be followed by a prepositional phrase or Clause. Both the cases are possible.
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by mundasingh123 » Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:28 am
Frankenstein wrote:
I think of you as my friend.
Here, as is not followed by a preposition . Again source MGMAT SC Guide
See, here 'as' is used as an adverb, not conjunction.
You said
Hi,
Clause follows 'as' is well known. As far as I know, 'as' can be followed only by prepositional phrases, not other forms of phrases.
My post was in reference to this
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by mundasingh123 » Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:30 am
gmat25 wrote:AS can be followed by a prepositional phrase or Clause. Both the cases are possible.
I think Frankenstein committed a typo when he said a prepos. phrase could include a clause
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by Frankenstein » Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:39 am
mundasingh123 wrote:
Frankenstein wrote:
I think of you as my friend.
Here, as is not followed by a preposition . Again source MGMAT SC Guide
See, here 'as' is used as an adverb, not conjunction.
You said
Hi,
Clause follows 'as' is well known. As far as I know, 'as' can be followed only by prepositional phrases, not other forms of phrases.
My post was in reference to this
Well, my post was in response to this.
For example As is a conjunction and is supposed to be followed by a clause when used for comparison.
So an exception to this rule is
As in this case , the number of students getting into Bschools continue to be determined by the economic situation.
So, I was talking only about 'as' as a conjunction and the context is only about using 'as' for comparison.
I think Frankenstein committed a typo when he said a prepos. phrase could include a clause
No, That is not self-made. I wrote what I have studied only. I am not sure about the authenticity of the source. But, the example I have seen for prepositional phrase is:
About what we need
About = preposition; what we need = noun clause.
Last edited by Frankenstein on Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:06 am, edited 1 time in total.
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by gmat25 » Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:39 am
AS following a CLAUSE: OG-12 Q-7

As its sales of computer products have surpassed
those of measuring instruments, the company has
become increasingly willing to compete for the mass
market sales they would in the past have conceded
to rivals.
(A) they would in the past have conceded to rivals
(B) they would have conceded previously to their
rivals
(C) that in the past would have been conceded
previously to rivals
(D) it previously would have conceded to rivals in
the past
(E) it would in the past have conceded to rivals

OA is Op E


Surprisingly, In OG-12 Q-9, the explanation given for AS in choice B

9. Like the idolization accorded the Brontës and
Brownings, James Joyce and Virginia Woolf are often
subjected to the kind of veneration that blurs the
distinction between the artist and the human being.
(A) Like the idolization accorded the Brontës and
Brownings,
(B) As the Brontës’ and Brownings’ idolization,
(C) Like that accorded to the Brontës and Brownings,
(D) As it is of the Brontës and Brownings,
(E) Like the Brontës and Brownings,

OA is E

Official explanation for Op B:---> incorrect

B Th e conjunction as may introduce a clause but
not a phrase; Joyce and Woolf are compared
to idolization rather than to the writers.
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by gmat25 » Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:42 am
Why OG is saying this in Q-9 - OG-12, for Op B, as posted above

The conjunction as may introduce a clause but
not a phrase; Joyce and Woolf are compared
to idolization rather than to the writers.
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by gmat25 » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:20 am
@finance

What's the OA???????
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