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by jain2016 » Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:31 am
Analysts believe that whereas bad decision by elected leaders can certainly hurt the economy, no administration can really be said to control or manage all of the complex and interrelated forces that determine the nation's economic strength.

A) no administration can really be said to control

B) no administration can be said that it really controls

C) that no administration can really be said to control

D) that no administration can really be said that it controls

E) that it cannot be said that any administration really controls

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Hi Experts ,

Whats wrong with option B?

Please explain.

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by iongmat » Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:34 pm
For B this would mean

it really controls or manage...

"it really manage" is incorrect. It should have been "manages". But since "manage" is in the non-underlined portion, we cannot do anything about it.
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by MartyMurray » Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:54 pm
jain2016 wrote:Whats wrong with option B?
Look for contrast at option A.

In option A, there is the expression can really be said to.

So the sentence created using option A includes a list of infinitives, said to control or [to] manage, meaning that the verb form manage works with the underlined portion.

In B, on the other hand, the list starts in the underlined portion with controls, which is a present tense form, and then the list continues with manage, which is either an infinitive form or a plural form that does not work with administration.

Further, B contains the expression can be said that, which is unidiomatic and does not make sense. The point is not that no administration said that or that no administration can be said that, whatever that expression even means. The point is that, and the idiomatically correct form is, no administration can really be said to.
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by richachampion » Tue Sep 06, 2016 6:06 pm
Marty Murray wrote:
jain2016 wrote:Whats wrong with option B?
Look for contrast at option A.

In option A, there is the expression can really be said to.

So the sentence created using option A includes a list of infinitives, said to control or [to] manage, meaning that the verb form manage works with the underlined portion.

In B, on the other hand, the list starts in the underlined portion with controls, which is a present tense form, and then the list continues with manage, which is either an infinitive form or a plural form that does not work with administration.

Further, B contains the expression can be said that, which is unidiomatic and does not make sense. The point is not that no administration said that or that no administration can be said that, whatever that expression even means. The point is that, and the idiomatically correct form is, no administration can really be said to.
Mr. Murray, Are there any other decision points in deciding A vs B?
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by MartyMurray » Tue Sep 06, 2016 9:49 pm
richachampion wrote:
Marty Murray wrote:
jain2016 wrote:Whats wrong with option B?
Look for contrast at option A.

In option A, there is the expression can really be said to.

So the sentence created using option A includes a list of infinitives, said to control or [to] manage, meaning that the verb form manage works with the underlined portion.

In B, on the other hand, the list starts in the underlined portion with controls, which is a present tense form, and then the list continues with manage, which is either an infinitive form or a plural form that does not work with administration.

Further, B contains the expression can be said that, which is unidiomatic and does not make sense. The point is not that no administration said that or that no administration can be said that, whatever that expression even means. The point is that, and the idiomatically correct form is, no administration can really be said to.
Mr. Murray, Are there any other decision points in deciding A vs B?
Not really.

The trap of choice B is that said that might seem to sound right somehow, because in certain situations using said that makes sense. As I said though, using said that in this situation does not make sense.
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