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Abigail Adams

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by vidhya16 » Fri Aug 26, 2011 3:29 am
Abigail Adams is still remembered nowadays, almost 200 years after her death, due to the fact that it was the wife of President John Adams, the mother of President John Quincy Adams, and a supporter of women’s rights.

due to the fact that she was the wife of President John Adams, the mother of President John Quincy Adams, and
due to the fact that she was the wife of President John Adams, the mother of President John Quincy Adams, and also


The above two choices are similar except the word "also". Can some explain the difference?

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by aspirant2011 » Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:08 am
vidhya16 wrote:Abigail Adams is still remembered nowadays, almost 200 years after her death, due to the fact that it was the wife of President John Adams, the mother of President John Quincy Adams, and a supporter of women’s rights.

due to the fact that she was the wife of President John Adams, the mother of President John Quincy Adams, and
due to the fact that she was the wife of President John Adams, the mother of President John Quincy Adams, and also


The above two choices are similar except the word "also". Can some explain the difference?

ta
tough one and I am confused :-(.........will wait for expert comments on the same.......
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by patanjali.purpose » Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:51 am
due to the fact that she was the wife of President John Adams, the mother of President John Quincy Adams, and a supporter of women’s rights.

Bold partS are parallel. Use of 'Also' is redundant here as the meaning of 'also' is conveyed through 'and'

IMO [spoiler]'first option - without ALSO' is correct[/spoiler]
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by GmatKiss » Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:10 am
IMO: Without also
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by aspirant2011 » Sat Aug 27, 2011 1:59 am
patanjali.purpose wrote:due to the fact that she was the wife of President John Adams, the mother of President John Quincy Adams, and a supporter of women’s rights.

Bold partS are parallel. Use of 'Also' is redundant here as the meaning of 'also' is conveyed through 'and'

IMO [spoiler]'first option - without ALSO' is correct[/spoiler]
Hi Patanjali,

In normal english I have seen people using also with and
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by vidhya16 » Sat Aug 27, 2011 3:04 am
With Out "ALSO" is the correct option.

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by patanjali.purpose » Sat Aug 27, 2011 4:54 pm
aspirant2011 wrote:
patanjali.purpose wrote:due to the fact that she was the wife of President John Adams, the mother of President John Quincy Adams, and a supporter of women’s rights.

Bold partS are parallel. Use of 'Also' is redundant here as the meaning of 'also' is conveyed through 'and'

IMO [spoiler]'first option - without ALSO' is correct[/spoiler]
Hi Patanjali,

In normal english I have seen people using also with and
I agree. However, I have not seen a correct option in OG with 'and also' (recently seen OG12 - 53B, but B is incorrect).

AND ALSO possibly can be used when we intend to emphasize the last part of the list. However, there is no such intent here.
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by e-GMAT » Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:51 pm
A few observations about the discussion in this post. First of discussing just 2 choices without the knowledge of complete question is risky at best. Secondly, questioning whether 'and also' vs 'and'is correct without knowing the intent of the original sentence is not productive. Thirdly, the sentence whether has also or not, is incorrect because of the use of "due to".

ABC is remembered due to the fact...

"due to" cannot be used to explain the verb "is remembered".

Furthermore, "and also" can be used if the context demands so.

This season, Barcelona has allowed far fewer goals than Manchester United (21 to 37) during league play and also fewer shots on goal (23 to 34) in Champions League matches.
https://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 78942.html

1A- The standard procedures for publication department are intended to ensure consistency and to minimize errors.
1B- The standard procedures for publication department are intended to ensure consistency and also to minimize errors.

2A- Approval of standard procedures for publication department requires signatures of the chief editor and the authors.
2B- Approval of standard procedures for publication department requires signatures of the chief editor and also the authors.

As you can see in the first sentence pair, "and also" makes sense since the two elements in the list are not really obviously related - consistency and minimizing errors may be an obvious thing for people in manufacturing industry or for people who are involved with continuous process improvement but not for others.

However in the second sentence pair "and also" is not really required. That authors and chief editor will be involved in approving standard procedures appears to be more readily understood.

Again, my point here is that do not debate on such usage when really the context drives if the usage is correct or not. This is not a good use of your time and such exercises actually take you away from the very basis of sentence correction.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Payal
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by navami » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:07 pm
without also
This time no looking back!!!
Navami
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