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570 --> 710 in 46 days

by LizardFace » Sun May 22, 2011 10:38 pm
Hello,

I've been browsing through this forum for advice and insights on the GMAT for less than 3 weeks and with only 1 post, I don't think I've really established myself as part of the 'community'. But I feel like I had kind of a weird run around with practice test scores before I took the real exam and maybe, well, if you are in a similar boat this can put your mind at ease.

I started preparing on April 4, 2011 by taking a Princeton Review course and I took the real GMAT on May 21, 2011. The course ended May 17, 2011. Between the online practice content TPR has and the OG 12 exercises, I took a total of 7 practice exams, 2 of which were from the official GMAT Prep software:

TPR Test 1: 570 (35Q, 34V, taken with no previous prep)
TPR Test 2: 610 (48Q, 26V)
TPR Test 3: 640 (45Q, 33V)
Official Test 1: 650 (45Q, 35V, I took this at the end of April)
TPR Test 4: 590 (42Q, 30V, taken 5/14)
TPR Test 5: 560 (36Q, 31V, taken 5/15)
Official Test 2: 640 (45Q, 34V, I took this 2 days before the real exam)

Well you can see that my scores had gone up consistently throughout April and I had the feeling that the TPR CATS were pretty accurate. But it wasn't until a week before the exam that I did a bunch of prep and took TPR's Test 4 only to get a low score. I was frustrated and determined to prove to myself that I was capable of a higher score, so I reviewed Test 4 and took Test 5 the following day, scoring even lower than what I did before I did ANY prep.

Thats when I felt like I hit a mental brick wall. You can see that here:
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In that previous post I actually mentioned that I would do a bunch of practice problems between that Sunday, May 15 up until I took the 2nd GMATPrep practice test on May 19. Turns out I hardly did squat. Other than the last TPR class session on May 17 I kind of just took a step back from GMAT, business school and career direction. I didn't really panic or get too upset about it, but I didn't really feel that confident. Up until Thursday evening when I finished the second practice test I was almost mentally preparing myself to take the real exam a 2nd time. But that score jump back to what I had consistently been doing was a big confidence booster.

On the day of the exam I felt a little nervous but overall things went pretty smoothly. I'm grateful I got a decent noteboard and markers. During my prep I only wrote full essays once, a bunch of other times I just made a quick outline of what I was going to write. But I was able to finish writing both essays on the real exam with a good 5 minutes to spare on the Argument and Issue section. On the math I didn't really feel like there were problems that were ridiculously difficult, just some problems that were a little challenging because it took me a while to solve them. Verbal was a little bit of a relief because I felt like the first problem I got, an SC, was something I was able to confidently answer. Later on there were a few questions I felt like were very challenging in the verbal section. But I took that as a good sign that I was doing well.

I reached the last problem on the math section with just under 2 minutes to spare and the last problem on the verbal section with about 5 min to spare. When I got to the point where I could see my score this is what I saw:

Quant 48 - 82nd percentile
Verbal 38 - 83rd percentile
Total 710 - 92nd percentile

I actually looked away from the monitor when I clicked "Next" to reveal my score. When I saw the 710 on the screen I almost yelled out "YESS!!!" in the middle of the test room lol.

As far as exam strategy, the only thing I want to point out is that I took every opportunity to take a break. Even though I finished both Essays early I waited for the timer to run down to kind of mentally relax so I wouldn't feel like I'd lose focus. During the first break between Essays and Math and the second break between Math and Verbal I just took a good 5-6 minutes to think of problems I had done during practice that I knew I got right. I never actually got up and left my desk. I felt that during my practice exams I would kind of rush into a section, screwing up a few problems in the beginning. Only to find out after I finished a practice test that I could have easily gotten the first few problems right had I just been more focused.

Well I didn't mean to make such a long debrief. I'll probably post more stuff about schools I'd like to apply to and requests for business school advice later on since I'm hoping to start a full time MBA program in either Fall 2012 or Fall 2013. Anyways, I'm glad I found this active pre-B school forum, reading about other people's experiences has been pretty motivational.

Oh and of course, thanks to hcueva for responding to my original post!
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by vineeshp » Mon May 23, 2011 1:52 am
CONGRATS!!!!!!!!!

from 650 in GMAT Prep to 710!! Awesome work!
Vineesh,
Just telling you what I know and think. I am not the expert. :)

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by LizardFace » Mon May 23, 2011 7:29 pm
I got a PM requesting more detail on my prep and exam experience, so I'm sharing it so all can benefit:

A little bit about myself can kind of shed some background on why I didn't stretch out my GMAT studying for 2+ months. I graduated with B.S. in Biomedical Engineering and a Minor in Materials Science Engineering back in June 2009. During my undergrad years I held a part time tutoring job for high school students. Back then I never gave business school a serious thought but it turns out that the tutoring job I held kept me familiar with several of the exam's topics.

In addition, since I've been working after I graduated I coincidentally have had multiple test-like situations related to work that I've had to prepare for. Especially with math/science/engineering topics. This is primarily because I am sort of trying to obtain a PE (Registered Professional Engineer License in the US, this requires completion of two 8 hour length exams, spaced between a few years of work experience) so that has kept up my quant ability and test taking endurance.

Lastly, I am in a consulting job so I write reports regularly. This is why I didn't bother so much with practicing the AWA section, other than outlining for 5 min on practice exams.

Now, as far as prep goes...let me explain how I mentally approached this exam (just my opinion):

I do not consider the GMAT to be a strong indicator of an individual's management/leadership capability. Period.

The only reason this test is important is because its a consistent obstacle which I feel business schools use to gauge the level of preparation an applicant has put in before taking the exam. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, they need to understand how everyone performs on a level playing field. But my point is well, I'm sure if you take a look at a lot of people applying towards Executive MBA programs they probably don't have 700+ GMAT scores without any prep. Yet, they are successfully holding management positions and/or have significant leadership experience.

Anyways, the bottom line comes down to "do you understand the concept?" I feel that this kind of mentality is similar to what I applied to undergrad coursework in math/engineering/science. This makes preparation a little bit easier because you don't need to do 85 problems 4 nights a week for 3 months straight. Its just a matter of applying basic concepts to convoluted problems. Just doing 10-20 problems a night but shooting for 100% would be 10x more beneficial than just plowing through a bunch of them. I've also read that some people didn't like Princeton Review's approach because it was a lot about "tricks". I think that this approach is one of several ways to score well, but it'll only work if you honestly believe it and practice with it. Otherwise if you don't buy it, its better to go with other test prep material from other companies. Again, just my opinion.

Some more details on my actual test:

Essays
My argument question wasn't something way out of the ordinary. It seemed pretty straight forward and I was able to draw three weakpoints from the prompt, basically the data in the prompt wasn't a representative sample and there was a lack of other details in the argument that I wrote about.

For my issue essay I was only able to gather two solid examples to support my position. I kind of struggled to come up with a 3rd example but in the end I didn't bother with it. Just stuck with 2 examples.

I haven't received my official score report so I don't know how well I did on the essays. I can update later.

Math
I remember running into a few challenging problems in math that seemed like it would take forever to solve by hand. Specifically one geometry problem, I think it was number 2 or 3 during the exam. When I ran across it I didn't panic, but kind of stopped to think about it. To be honest, I didn't really worry about time because I didn't really have issues with running out of time during my practice tests. I felt like there wasn't anything super difficult, at least not until I got later into the exam. Then I honestly think I saw some data sufficiency questions very similar to the problems I did in OG 12. As I went through the test I don't think I saw any permutation/combination problems.

Verbal
I remember on the TPR CATS I took that I really screwed up on verbal because I rushed in on the first few problems. This was mainly because I felt like my mind was still in math mode and I wasn't really thinking of verbal problems. I think when I took the 5-6 min break and just sat there thinking of verbal problems I knew I got right and kind of going over stupid stuff to get my mind to relax (lol think spongebob saying "I'm ready! I'm ready!") I was able to get myself motivated for the verbal part and come in without really feeling so much of the "weight" of the math and the essays. The first problem I got was a SC. I felt good about it because it seemed like a medium difficulty problem and I got the feeling that I had messed up a similar type of problem on my recent TPR CATS, so I knew what not to do. I'm pretty confident I got that right and that set me off on a good pace for the rest of the first 10 problems.

I think I got a total of 4 RC passages, the first one appeared within the first 10 problems. I actually took the time to write down a few notes about what thought the passage was about and then answered the questions. I think I got the hardest passage later in the exam. I thought it was hard because it discussed different and similar roles on the data presented in the passage and what the author was trying to prove with each comparison.

I noticed as I was going through the test that the critical reasoning questions became pretty convoluted (asking for what would not work? what would a different conclusion be if something had been false? etc). I do remember idiom SC problems, but those tended to be lumped together with another type of error like parallelism or misplaced modifier.

Well...there you have it, a more thorough debrief.

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by Victory_GMAT » Tue May 24, 2011 5:05 pm
Well this is also considerably good improvement!! Keep it up!

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by sivaelectric » Wed May 25, 2011 9:51 am
Congrats and thanks for the debrief!!!! :)
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by Ronny777 » Wed May 25, 2011 10:16 am
"My argument question wasn't something way out of the ordinary. It seemed pretty straight forward and I was able to draw three weakpoints from the prompt, basically the data in the prompt wasn't a representative sample and there was a lack of other details in the argument that I wrote about."

My experience was that the argument doesn't necessarily need to be something "way out of the ordinary". As long as I keep a structure of my argumentation and weigh the pro's and con's I show my ability to argue in a structured way - and that's what you need in the MBA later on. Ron

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by bblast » Wed May 25, 2011 11:06 am
LizardFace wrote:Hello,

I've been browsing through this forum for advice and insights on the GMAT for less than 3 weeks and with only 1 post, I don't think I've really established myself as part of the 'community'. But I feel like I had kind of a weird run around with practice test scores before I took the real exam and maybe, well, if you are in a similar boat this can put your mind at ease.

I started preparing on April 4, 2011 by taking a Princeton Review course and I took the real GMAT on May 21, 2011. The course ended May 17, 2011. Between the online practice content TPR has and the OG 12 exercises, I took a total of 7 practice exams, 2 of which were from the official GMAT Prep software:

TPR Test 1: 570 (35Q, 34V, taken with no previous prep)
TPR Test 2: 610 (48Q, 26V)
TPR Test 3: 640 (45Q, 33V)
Official Test 1: 650 (45Q, 35V, I took this at the end of April)
TPR Test 4: 590 (42Q, 30V, taken 5/14)
TPR Test 5: 560 (36Q, 31V, taken 5/15)
Official Test 2: 640 (45Q, 34V, I took this 2 days before the real exam)


how do you rate princeton cat's ? was your 5th cat a repeat ? they have only 4 cats I guess ?
Cheers !!

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by viv_gmat » Wed May 25, 2011 11:38 am
Hey Big Congratulations..You have got a perfect score.
Btw, I got a 560 in my first GMAT and I'm retaking it soon.
I will be really happy to get a 700 :)

Best of luck for the application process

Cheers
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by LizardFace » Thu May 26, 2011 7:27 pm
Hey everyone,

I just noticed a bunch of posts on this thread after I got a PM, I thought this had faded away in forum memory! Anyways on to some responses:

@Ronny777 - The reason I explained how I felt about the argument prompt I got is most likely because of the non GMAT Prep CATS I took and because during my prep I sort of thought of the argument essay as a critical reasoning question. I had seen a bunch of difficult critical reasoning questions in OG 12 and I thought something of that difficulty could show up on the essay section. Fortunately it didn't and the approach you described is more or less what I did: write with an easily identifiable structure, weigh the pros and cons, and offer some thoughts as how the author could have improved his argument.

@bblast - All of The Princeton Review CATS I took are available on their website through their online student center. In their course syllabus they incorporate 4 of the 5 CATS as part of regular homework. I'm guessing the 5th is there for a final score evaluation after the course ends. I never repeated a CAT for TPR or GMAT Prep.

As far as feel goes, The first three TPR CATS I took were spaced out pretty evenly in April, with the 1st official GMAT Prep at the end of April (they laid out when to take the GMAT Prep tests in the course too). My gut feeling is that those 3 are probably more aligned with the real test, since TPR CAT 3 gave me almost exactly what GMAT Prep CAT 1 gave me. I actually started TPR CAT 2 and 3 late at night, like around 9 pm on a weekday night (blame my work schedule/traveling for starting so late). Strangely I did better while a little tired at the end of the day. Compared to TPR CAT 4 and 5, which were done in the morning and afternoon on a weekend, with a quick review before each, my score just tanked. I'd say the last two TPR CATS are probably more difficult than the real exam, mainly because the first 10 problems on each section seemed to give me more trouble than I had on any of my previous practice tests.

Overall, I would say that the 2 official GMAT Prep CATS are definitely a good indicator of what the real exam would be like. I had the feeling when I took those 2 tests that there was a balance of difficulty and fairness (questions usually seemed like they had one obvious answer, rather than so many that were very close) which I didn't see too much on the later TPR CATS. So yeah, I'd say the first 3 TPR CATS seemed a bit more balanced than the later ones, I don't know how else to explain why they dropped my score so low.

Also keep in mind that I hardly bothered with the essays on each practice test, except for the first one.

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by LizardFace » Fri May 27, 2011 9:04 am
Quick update, I just got an email from Pearson VUE that my official score report is available online. Turns out on my AWA section I got a 5.0!

I have to admit, on the issue essay I made up one of my examples lol

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by irock » Sat May 28, 2011 3:22 am
kudos to you man..