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by khurram » Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:21 am
If A, then B.
If B, then C.
If C, then D.
If all of the statements above are true, which of the following must also be true?
(A) If D, then A.
(B) If not B, then not C.
(C) If not D, then not A.
(D) If D, then E.
(E) If not A, then not D.


Why is the Ans C

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Makes no logical sense to me.
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Source: — Critical Reasoning |

by khurram » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:32 pm
This is how I am thinking

If baby, then boy
if boy, then men
if men, then old men

So that takes out a and d (also out of scope)

B C and E

How do you figure this out.

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by ikant » Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:00 am
Ok the answer sure is C.

The explanation goes as below::

First understand the logic of the relation a-> b.

The two valid inferences from this are :: If a then b
If not b then not a.

Apart from these two no other inference is valid.
Based on this let us write the given stmts::
A -> B; B -> C; C -> D.

This reduces to :- A -> D.

And the valid inference is the C stmt => If not D then not A
"To do is to be"
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by hillzheng » Mon May 12, 2008 5:03 pm
So the answer is C.
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by shipra » Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:26 pm
guys, its still not very clear....how does A->B imply If not B thn not A????
Tht wl b a condition only if the condition is A<->B..isnt it?
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by durgesh79 » Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:48 pm
If i go out --> it'll rain ( i have some magical powers 8) )

So if its not raining --> you can be sure that I'm sitting in my room and sipping my coffee (Means I'm not out)

another example :
if you connect the wires --> light is on
If light is off --> sure the wires are not connected.
Last edited by durgesh79 on Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:57 am, edited 1 time in total.
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by shipra » Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:51 pm
cool example...actually helped..thanx :D
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by loki.gmat » Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:06 pm
we can reduce the given data to the below mentioned format :
I) If A, then B means A leads to B (A --> B).
II) If B, then C means B leads to C (B --> C).
III)If C, then D means C leads to D(C --> D).
hence we can coclude that A leads to D (A --> D).

A - "If D, then A" means that D --> A whereas its the exact opposite. hence incorrect.
B - If not B, then not C means that not B --> not C. not always true. data says nothing about the existence of C when B doesnot exist. out of scope.
D - If D, then E means that D --> E. out of scope.
E - If not A, then not D means that not A --> not D. again not always true.
C - (correct) - data says that A leads to D which means that if A exists D has to exist. i.e, the presence of A is always followed by the presence of D.hence if D doesnot exist, it means that A was not in existence at all.

hence IMO C.


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by gmat.aspirant » Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:42 pm
As far as I know, General principal of logical inference is that when you change the relation from positive to negative, the direction changes as well.

E.g.
A -> B so, not A <- not B, in other words, Not B -> Not A
It's same as other mathematical concept...
1<5
if I multiply it by -1 then it will be -1>-5

So, if we apply this rule, the only correct answer is C. Hope it's not too technical...
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by suchit » Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:05 am
I'm still not clear as to how C is the answer as the question does not give any relation between A and D, therefore I thought that the answer should be B.

Can someone please expain between answer choices C and B ?
thanks
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by Ian Stewart » Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:26 am
suchit wrote:I'm still not clear as to how C is the answer as the question does not give any relation between A and D, therefore I thought that the answer should be B.
It does give a relationship between A and D, as loki.gmat explains above. The question says 'If A is true, then B is true'; 'If B is true, then C is true'; 'If C is true then D is true'. Taken together, this means 'If A is true, then D is true'. If this weren't the case, we would not be able to solve equations that have several steps. Take a question where you are asked to find x^2:

x = 2x - 4 A
4 = 2x - x B
4 = x C
16 = x^2 D

there is certainly a relationship between A and D here: if A is true, then B is; if B is true, then C is; if C is true, then D is. Thus, from A, we conclude that D is true. Notice also that some steps are not reversible here. If D is true, that does not mean that C is true; x might be negative 4, not positive 4.

The Critical Reasoning question in the original post tests whether you understand what is known as the 'contrapositive' in mathematical logic. Whenever you know: 'If A is true, then B is true', you can always conclude: 'If B is false, then A is false'. You cannot, however, reverse the statement- If B is true, you cannot be sure that A is true.

So, A might be 'it's raining', and B might be 'there are clouds'. It is true that 'If it's raining, there are clouds'. You cannot simply reverse the statement- you cannot necessarily conclude 'If there are clouds, it's raining'. We know that's false. You can, however, reverse the statement and make A and B false: 'If there are no clouds, it's not raining'. This is the 'contrapositive' of the original statement, and is always a valid logical deduction.
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by suchit » Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:05 pm
:idea: Aha - Got it. Thanks for your detailed reply
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by peter.p.81 » Tue May 10, 2016 11:56 pm
Cannot decide between C and B. Can anyone brake down these two choices for me please
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