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what a DS question means vs. what it is

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by goncaljj » Fri Sep 19, 2008 4:10 am
Question 154 of DS practice section from the “Official” GMAT review book (2008 version):

Stem: Is x negative?
Data:

a) x^3(1-x^2)<0
b) x^2-1<0

Based on a) -1<x<0 U x>1
Based on b) -1<x<1

Neither option is sufficient on their own; now, if we intersect both a) and b), the answer is -1<x<0. The “official” answer to this question is that C (both options combined) are sufficient to determine whether the number x is negative, HOWEVER, it is not any negative, since, for example, x = -8 does not satisfy either a) or b), and it is still negative number; so, to me this is an option E. Of course, I got it wrong, since what the GMAT guys meant to ask seems not to be what they actually asked... Or am I a too complicated thinker? I bet that two questions like this in the same exam would have different answers depending upon whomever decided what the one they wanted was.

Any comments are appreciated.

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Source: — Data Sufficiency |

by ed09 » Fri Sep 19, 2008 4:58 pm
Hi Goncaljj,

Let's try to think together.

First, I suppose we both agree that (-1<x<0) is the solution of the system of the inequalities given, or that x belongs to the interval of (-1;0) on a number line. Certainly, numbers on this line are real on default.

Now let’s look at our terse stem. It unceremoniously asks "Is x negative?". In other words, does x belongs to the interval of (-inf.;0) on a number line?

So, we have the interval of (-1;0) for all values of our troublesome x, and the interval of (-inf.;0) for all negatives.

On this understanding, our question is whether our interval of (-1;0) belongs to the interval of (-inf.;0) on a number line.

Evidently (at least to me), the interval of (-1;0) is a snip of the interval of (-inf.;0) and therefore (-1;0), indeed, belongs to (-inf.;0).

Actually, that means that our tiresome x belongs to negatives. Of course, it does not mean that x embraces all negative values, but, nonetheless, it is ALWAYS negative, and this is enough (read as SUFFICIENT) for us to say “YES!” on this ...(find here adjective you like) question.

It seems that’s it.

I’ll appreciate your objections or pointing to any, even tiny, flaws in my logic.

What a sobbing face in the bottom! Get rid of it!
Be fresh and cheerful! :)

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goncaljj wrote:
the answer is -1<x<0. The “official” answer to this question is that C (both options combined) are sufficient to determine whether the number x is negative, HOWEVER, it is not any negative, since, for example, x = -8 does not satisfy either a) or b), and it is still negative number; so, to me this is an option E. Of course, I got it wrong, since what the GMAT guys meant to ask seems not to be what they actually asked... Or am I a too complicated thinker? I bet that two questions like this in the same exam would have different answers depending upon whomever decided what the one they wanted was.
ed09 has given a great explanation above, but I just wanted to add a few words. If I ask "Is -3 negative?" I expect it's obvious that the answer is 'yes'. It doesn't matter that -3 cannot be equal to -8. Similarly, if you know that x lies between -1 and 0, you can be absolutely certain that x is negative. Again, it doesn't matter that x cannot be equal to -8.

The answers to GMAT Quant questions are never at the whim of the question designer. If you can determine that -1 < x < 0 on a GMAT DS question that asks 'is x negative?', then you certainly have sufficient information.
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