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[dimple]

In the Renaissance, painters were so impressed with Leonardo da Vinci that they ignored their own training and designate as a masterpiece anything he painted.

(A) were so impressed with Leonardo da Vinci that they ignored

(B) were impressed with Leonardo da Vinci to such an extent that they were to ignore

(C) were so impressed with Leonardo da Vinci as to ignore

(D) were so impressed with Leonardo da Vinci that they had to ignore

(E) were as impressed with Leonardo da Vinci as to ignore

Please xplain.

[venkat8103]

A it is.

A) So...that is right idiom

B) Redundant

C) So as to..Wrong

D) Not in parallel : So Impressed tha they igonered is correct

5)Wrong

[800guy]

agree with venkat's good analysis. has to be 'a'

'as to' is not idiomatic, for future reference

[inforeqd51]

In the option 'a' the tense for 'ignored' , does not match that of 'designate'

[Stacey Koprince]

Hi, guys

The correct idiom is "so X as to Y" - so, unfortunately, A is not the right answer. C is the only answer that does not present a grammatical error. I am curious as to the source of the question, though, because "In the Renaissance" is incorrect - it should say "During the Renaissance" but this is not even part of the underline.

Be really careful when studying questions that are not OG or from a highly reputable source - especially SC. Actually - don't be careful - just don't do it. Poorly written questions will just mess you up.

Anyway, A is wrong b/c idiom is incorrect.
B you would need to say "they were willing to ignore..."; also "to such an extent that" is wordier than "so X as to Y"
C is right
D incorrect idiom (so X that Y)
E incorrect idiom (as X as to Y)

[kiran.raze]

Hi Stacey,

I guess this is an older post - did not want to make a new one so just adding on to this one - here you have mentioned that the idiom so X that Y is incorrect - while many resources including manhattan suggest the usage of so X that Y as correct.

Could you help me ?

cheers
Kiran

[eshahid]

the correct idiom as per the Manhattan SC is

So X as to be Y
and
So X that Y

am I missing something silly??

[kiran.raze]

ya, exactly thats what I thought - please see the post above (in this thread only) by stacey above- that is what is causing a confusion !

[Stacey Koprince]

So, they used to seem to prefer "so X as to Y" but "so X that" and "so that" are perfectly viable candidates. We're updating this in our next version of the SC strategy guide.

Strangely, in the current OG11, the explanation for one problem claims that "so X as to Y" is an INcorrect idiom... but then another problem later in the same book says the correct answer properly uses the "so X as to Y" idiom!

The only difference we could see in usage was that the incorrect problem used a clause for X while the correct problem used an adjective for X. So... beware "so X as to Y" where X is a clause.

Back to this problem. It's not an official problem. (You can tell because, among other things, "were" is the first word in all five answer choices. Official problems never do that - there's at least one change, however small, at the beginning and end of the underline.) So don't use it - if whoever wrote it can't even be bothered to follow the most basic rules for constructing an SC question, then it's not a good study problem.

[anju]

my two cents on this question:
"so X that Y" and "so X as to be Y" are correct Idioms.

Between A and C I chose C because in A though the IDIOM is correct as per me the sentence should be "were so impressed with Leonardo da Vinci that they ignored their own training and designated" something on this line.... ignored and designated should be parallel... we cannot modify designated since that is not underlined so the best option is C - "were so impressed with Leonardo da Vinci as to ignore their own training and designate" - In C ignore and designate are parallel

[stop@800]

my two cents on this question:
"so X that Y" and "so X as to be Y" are correct Idioms.

Between A and C I chose C because in A though the IDIOM is correct as per me the sentence should be "were so impressed with Leonardo da Vinci that they ignored their own training and designated" something on this line.... ignored and designated should be parallel... we cannot modify designated since that is not underlined so the best option is C - "were so impressed with Leonardo da Vinci as to ignore their own training and designate" - In C ignore and designate are parallel

Correct
ignore and designate needs to be paralle.

[babuxavier]

IMO A