Grockit Sentence Correction Question+Answer

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Grockit Sentence Correction Question+Answer

by spucmu » Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:27 pm
Considering all of the scientists who have been awarded the Nobel Prize, perhaps none is more lauded as the chemist Mendel, who pioneered the study of several new elements and paved the way for some of the great discoveries of the modern era.

Choices
A
perhaps none is more lauded as
Choice A is not the correct answer. The verb is incorrectly in the present tense, and "as" should be "than."

B
perhaps none was more lauded as
Choice B is not the correct answer. "As" is idiomatically incorrect.

C
it may be that none is more lauded than
Choice C is not the correct answer. The verb should be in the past tense, rather than the present.

D
maybe none is more lauded than
Choice D is not the correct answer. The construction should use "was" rather than "is."

E
perhaps none was more lauded than
Choice E is the correct answer. It uses the correct verb tense and idiomatic construction.

Why D can't be the answer?
I didn't understand how the tense is defined here. past vs present. Any clues?[/b]
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by Night reader » Mon Mar 07, 2011 4:39 pm
hi, firstly, there's an irregularity in the comparative form usage more lauded as should be more lauded than. Secondly, the Grockit SC entry has not quite GMAT-like style, meaning there's no clue for a test-taker who is not aware of Nobel Prize nomination procedures to verify if the prize could be awarded post-humous (to DEAD) or not :(. Hence both present tense and past tense suit here ... BUT I have selected the past tense (answer choice E), because stylistically answer D is ALSO incorrect. It says that Mendel is more lauded - then proceeds with listing past events having no connection with the present. If answer choice D were given in a slightly different format like --> Considering all of the scientists who have been awarded the Nobel Prize, maybe none is more lauded than the chemist Mendel, who during his life time was pioneering the study of several new elements and has paved the way for some of the great discoveries of the modern era, - then it would be correct. BUT it's not, hence select choice E.
spucmu wrote:Considering all of the scientists who have been awarded the Nobel Prize, perhaps none is more lauded as the chemist Mendel, who pioneered the study of several new elements and paved the way for some of the great discoveries of the modern era.

Choices
A
perhaps none is more lauded as
Choice A is not the correct answer. The verb is incorrectly in the present tense, and "as" should be "than."

B
perhaps none was more lauded as
Choice B is not the correct answer. "As" is idiomatically incorrect.

C
it may be that none is more lauded than
Choice C is not the correct answer. The verb should be in the past tense, rather than the present.

D
maybe none is more lauded than
Choice D is not the correct answer. The construction should use "was" rather than "is."

E
perhaps none was more lauded than
Choice E is the correct answer. It uses the correct verb tense and idiomatic construction.

Why D can't be the answer?
I didn't understand how the tense is defined here. past vs present. Any clues?[/b]
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by spucmu » Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:05 pm
Thanks! This makes sense. Though question is not standard E can be the answer as it at least correlates past tense to past tense rather than D which correlates present tense to past tense.

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by Night reader » Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:08 pm
yes, Grockit has the legitimate question-answer set.
spucmu wrote:Thanks! This makes sense. Though question is not standard E can be the answer as it at least correlates past tense to past tense rather than D which correlates present tense to past tense.
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by spucmu » Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:26 pm
Night reader wrote:yes, Grockit has the legitimate question-answer set.
spucmu wrote:Thanks! This makes sense. Though question is not standard E can be the answer as it at least correlates past tense to past tense rather than D which correlates present tense to past tense.
On the second thought, I still have doubt on explanation. This can be present tense because:
- scientists who have been awarded the Nobel Prize - USE OF PRESENT TENSE
- sentence continuation of scientists that got noble prize and explaining more about them which will be more like a "Universal proof/claim"

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by Night reader » Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:04 pm
I understand your doubt, which must be compromised once we grasp the idea conveyed with this sentence.

Considering all of the scientists who have been awarded the Nobel Prize, perhaps none is more lauded as the chemist Mendel, who pioneered the study of several new elements and paved the way for some of the great discoveries of the modern era.

the selection in blue/italic suggests the context --> award of Nobel Prize
the selection in BOLD/underlined is the actual query --> some one OR some ones are spoken well in the context of WHAT?

Now if we read/ask ourselves without the first fragment in the sentence --> None is more lauded as/than Mendel, who pioneered ... // It becomes clear even more that we speak about Mendel well ONLY in the context of Nobel Prize award, which as you correctly mentioned is given in a present perfect tense. The present perfect tense conveys ideas/information about the past events linked to the present. Here we have the award(s) of Nobel Prize which occurred in the past and are linked to the present - BUT, we switch to Mendel, who IS or WAS awarded Nobel Prize. As we agreed about Mendel who can be spoken well only in the context of Nobel Prize, this can be IS or WAS... To define further, we have to look for the following events of which the main actor is Mendel - and we take note that Mendel was GONE in the past (sorry) because all ideas conveyed in the sentence are in the past simple tense (no link with the present tense).

spucmu wrote:
Night reader wrote:yes, Grockit has the legitimate question-answer set.
spucmu wrote:Thanks! This makes sense. Though question is not standard E can be the answer as it at least correlates past tense to past tense rather than D which correlates present tense to past tense.
On the second thought, I still have doubt on explanation. This can be present tense because:
- scientists who have been awarded the Nobel Prize - USE OF PRESENT TENSE
- sentence continuation of scientists that got noble prize and explaining more about them which will be more like a "Universal proof/claim"
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by spucmu » Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:24 pm
Thanks for the explanation again!

Following thing added to my confusion

- Present perfect tense: Something that happened in the past and is continuing in present. So the word should be "is" right, else how will you relate two verbs.

- "who" just introduces more information that might not be needed - this might not be an essential modifer (?). Considering the statement without "who"

Considering all of the scientists who have been awarded the Nobel Prize, perhaps none is more lauded as the chemist Mendel

makes the complete sense to me.

Sorry!

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by Night reader » Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:20 pm
again - we don't know when Mendel was spoken about - NOW or IN THE PAST ?
to figure this out we switch to Mendel and see all the events occurring in the past - Mendel is not spoken now for the award of Nobel Prize which could be made BOTH in the Past and Present, BUT for sure Mendel WAS spoken in the Past because he did THAT and THAT in the Past in the context of Nobel Prize (we agreed here, ok?- Mendel could not be spoken for other reason) and since Present Perfect MUST occur in the Past BUT may continue IT's Effect (not Occurrence, Only Effect) in the Present, Mendel was spoken in the Past.

p.s. Nothing is wrong about Mendel to be spoken in the Present, BUT then we need to change all (or at least the one - last action) events following and enacted by Mendel from the Past completed to the Present Perfect.

Agree? :(
spucmu wrote:Thanks for the explanation again!

Following thing added to my confusion

- Present perfect tense: Something that happened in the past and is continuing in present. So the word should be "is" right, else how will you relate two verbs.

- "who" just introduces more information that might not be needed - this might not be an essential modifer (?). Considering the statement without "who"

Considering all of the scientists who have been awarded the Nobel Prize, perhaps none is more lauded as the chemist Mendel

makes the complete sense to me.

Sorry!

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by AIM GMAT » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:24 pm
Considering all of the scientists who have been awarded the Nobel Prize, perhaps none is more lauded as the chemist Mendel, who pioneered the study of several new elements and paved the way for some of the great discoveries of the modern era.

A] perhaps none is more lauded as

B]perhaps none was more lauded as

C]it may be that none is more lauded than

D]maybe none is more lauded than

E]perhaps none was more lauded than
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by archimittal » Tue Mar 08, 2011 1:33 am
This question is almost a replica of Q4 in OG 12 SC Chapter. Answer is E in that question as well.

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by sunnyjohn » Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:51 am
I agree with original Poster and all other who think that "D" can also be correct answer.

The sentence conveyed a "fact" so present tense can also be used.

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by viv_gmat » Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:32 am
Can we have Vivian answer this one....She is from Grockit !!

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by GmatKiss » Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:39 am
sunnyjohn wrote:I agree with original Poster and all other who think that "D" can also be correct answer.

The sentence conveyed a "fact" so present tense can also be used.
lets fix E to the original,

Considering all of the scientists who have been awarded the Nobel Prize, maybe none is more lauded than the chemist Mendel, who pioneered the study of several new elements and paved the way for some of the great discoveries of the modern era

the green part, clearly indicates the incident happened in the past! How can we use "is" here!

Please correct me if am wrong!

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by VivianKerr » Fri Sep 16, 2011 7:14 am
Considering all of the scientists who have been awarded the Nobel Prize, perhaps none is more lauded as the chemist Mendel, who pioneered the study of several new elements and paved the way for some of the great discoveries of the modern era.

Choices
A
perhaps none is more lauded as
Choice A is not the correct answer. The verb is incorrectly in the present tense, and "as" should be "than."

B
perhaps none was more lauded as
Choice B is not the correct answer. "As" is idiomatically incorrect.

C
it may be that none is more lauded than
Choice C is not the correct answer. The verb should be in the past tense, rather than the present.

D
maybe none is more lauded than
Choice D is not the correct answer. The construction should use "was" rather than "is."

E
perhaps none was more lauded than
1st error = Idiom. We need it to be "more lauded than." This allows us to eliminate A and B quickly.
2nd error = Verb Tense. The past tense verbs "pioneered" and "paved" indicate that Mendel's career achievements occurred in the past. If he has ALREADY won the Prize, then he was "lauded" in the past. This is more logical-meaning than anything else.

Furthermore, in D, "maybe" changes the meaning and is awkward. In C, "it may be" is the same as "maybe" -- this is expressing uncertainty and is awkwardly used. It's not that he was "maybe" lauded. He WAS lauded.

The phrase here that is really needed to clarify the meaning is "perhaps none...." It's an expression that has a subtly different meaning from "maybe" or "it may be" and removes the tone of uncertainty.
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by viv_gmat » Sat Sep 17, 2011 2:21 pm
VivianKerr wrote:
Considering all of the scientists who have been awarded the Nobel Prize, perhaps none is more lauded as the chemist Mendel, who pioneered the study of several new elements and paved the way for some of the great discoveries of the modern era.

Choices
A
perhaps none is more lauded as
Choice A is not the correct answer. The verb is incorrectly in the present tense, and "as" should be "than."

B
perhaps none was more lauded as
Choice B is not the correct answer. "As" is idiomatically incorrect.

C
it may be that none is more lauded than
Choice C is not the correct answer. The verb should be in the past tense, rather than the present.

D
maybe none is more lauded than
Choice D is not the correct answer. The construction should use "was" rather than "is."

E
perhaps none was more lauded than
1st error = Idiom. We need it to be "more lauded than." This allows us to eliminate A and B quickly.
2nd error = Verb Tense. The past tense verbs "pioneered" and "paved" indicate that Mendel's career achievements occurred in the past. If he has ALREADY won the Prize, then he was "lauded" in the past. This is more logical-meaning than anything else.

Furthermore, in D, "maybe" changes the meaning and is awkward. In C, "it may be" is the same as "maybe" -- this is expressing uncertainty and is awkwardly used. It's not that he was "maybe" lauded. He WAS lauded.

The phrase here that is really needed to clarify the meaning is "perhaps none...." It's an expression that has a subtly different meaning from "maybe" or "it may be" and removes the tone of uncertainty.
Hi Vivian

Keeping aside "may be" vs "perhaps" for a while don't you think in this sentence "IS" is the correct tense->
.....scientists who "HAVE BEEN AWARDED" the Nobel Prize, maybe none "IS" more lauded than

The reason is "may be none is" refers to Scientists who have been awarded that means till now.

Please clarify.

Thanks