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by kris610 » Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:01 pm
Both a and b are positive; what is the value of a?

(1) 150 percent of a equals 450 percent of b.

(2) ab is the cube of a positive integer.

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by Night reader » Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:33 pm
kris610 wrote:Both a and b are positive; what is the value of a?

(1) 150 percent of a equals 450 percent of b.

(2) ab is the cube of a positive integer.

Will post the answer after the members have had a chance to try this out.
a,b => not integers, +ve; a-?
st(1) 1.5a=4.5b => a=3b Not sufficient, as more than one value is solution for a;
st(2) ab=i^3 where i is +ve integer, neither i nor a, b are known Not sufficient;

Combining st(1&2)
3*b^2=i^3 => 3*b*b=i*i*i the only possible value is b=|3| since b can be + or - ve => cancel -ve
a, b not integers => 3*b^2=i^3, if i=1 then 3*b^2=1^3 => b^2=1/3, b=sqrt(1/3)
multiple answers are present

I stick to choice E as a final thought
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by Rahul@gurome » Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:50 pm
kris610 wrote:Both a and b are positive; what is the value of a?

(1) 150 percent of a equals 450 percent of b.

(2) ab is the cube of a positive integer.
Statement 1: 150 percent of a = 450 percent of b
Implies a = 3b
Infinite values of a are possible.

Not sufficient.

Statement 2: ab is the cube of a positive integer.
Any cube of a positive integer can be always written as product of two positive integers. Again infinite possible values of a.

Not sufficient.

1 & 2 Together: ab = 3b*b = 3b² = cube of a positive integer.
Again there are infinite possible values for b such that 3b² is a cube of a positive integer. For example any b of the form b = 3n³, where n is a positive integer. Because in that case 3b² = 3*(3n³)² = (3³)*(n^6) = (3n²)³ = Cube of 3n²
  • For n = 1, b = 3 => 3b² = 27 = (3)³
    For n = 2, b = 24 => 3(24)² = (3)*[(2)³*(3)]² = [(2)²(3)]³ = (12)³
Not sufficient.

The correct answer is E.
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by Night reader » Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:53 pm
Rahul@gurome wrote:
kris610 wrote:Both a and b are positive; what is the value of a?

(1) 150 percent of a equals 450 percent of b.

(2) ab is the cube of a positive integer.
Given: a and b are positive integers.

Statement 1: 150 percent of a = 450 percent of b
Implies a = 3b
Infinite values of a are possible.

Not sufficient.

Statement 2: ab is the cube of a positive integer.
Any cube of a positive integer can be always written as product of two positive integers. Again infinite possible values of a.

Not sufficient.

1 & 2 Together: ab = 3b*b = 3b² = cube of a positive integer.
Again there are infinite possible values for b such that 3b² is a cube of a positive integer. For example any b of the form b = 3n³, where n is a positive integer.
  • For n = 1, b = 3 => 3b² = 27 = (3)³
    For n = 2, b = 24 => 3(24)² = (3)*[(2)³*(3)]² = [(2)²(3)]³ = (12)³
Not sufficient.

The correct answer is E.
Rahul, was it given for a, b integers?

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by Rahul@gurome » Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:56 pm
Night reader wrote:Rahul, were it given for a, b integers?
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Edited. Anyway the reasoning remains the same.
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by kris610 » Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:56 pm
The OA is C.

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by Night reader » Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:05 pm
kris610 wrote:The OA is C.
what's the source of question?

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by kris610 » Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:06 pm
@Night Reader: Grockit.

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by prachich1987 » Mon Dec 20, 2010 7:27 pm
kris610 wrote:@Night Reader: Grockit.
From the above explanation given by Rahul,it's very clear that the answer has to be E.

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by Rahul@gurome » Mon Dec 20, 2010 7:42 pm
kris610 wrote:The OA is C.
For C to be the answer the question must ask for the minimum possible value of a. Otherwise there is more than one value of a is possible.
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