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by thangvietnam » Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:27 am

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More than 300 rivers drain into Siberia's Lake Baikal, which holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.

A. More than 300 rivers drain into Siberia's Lake Baikal, which holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.

B. With 20 percent of the world's fresh water, that is more than all the North American Great Lakes combined, Siberia's Lake Baikal has more than 300 rivers that drain into it.

C. Siberia's Lake Baikal, with more than 300 rivers draining into it, it holds more of the world's fresh water than all that of the North American Great Lakes combined, 20 percent.

D. While more than 300 rivers drain into it, Siberia's Lake Baikal holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, which is more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.

E. More than all the North American Great Lakes combined, Siberia's Lake Baikal, with more than 300 rivers draining into it, holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water.

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by Zipper » Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:36 am

Between A and D i think I will go with A since,

A - Kinda OK.On the first read I wasn't sure if It's clear that we are talking about the 20% fresh water that is more than NAGL combined not about the 300 rivers that train in SLB that are more than NAGL combined. (if this makes any sense

), but on a reread you can clearly see that NAGL part modifies the modifier so it's clear.

B - This is OK, but I think the intention of the sentence has changed.B speaks more for the rivers than for the 20% fresh water.

C - awkward.

D - not sure why, but IMO something is terribly wrong with WHILE (as far as I know WHILE should have something to do with contrast, here however we have 300 rivers draining (which is alot) and 20% of the world's fresh water (which is also alot, hence no contrast) and as in A I am not sure if it's totally clear for what exactly are we talking about.

E - above awkward.

It's hard for me to explain my thoughts on such complicated questions,for now, so I hope you got a clue for what I am talking about. When I get deeper in my SC practice I hope to explain myself a lot better

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by ronniecoleman » Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:47 am

IMO A

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by piyush_nitt » Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:49 am

Zipper wrote:Between A and D i think I will go with A since,

A - Kinda OK.On the first read I wasn't sure if It's clear that we are talking about the 20% fresh water that is more than NAGL combined not about the 300 rivers that train in SLB that are more than NAGL combined. (if this makes any sense :D), but on a reread you can clearly see that NAGL part modifies the modifier so it's clear.

B - This is OK, but I think the intention of the sentence has changed.B speaks more for the rivers than for the 20% fresh water.

C - awkward.

D - not sure why, but IMO something is terribly wrong with WHILE (as far as I know WHILE should have something to do with contrast, here however we have 300 rivers draining (which is alot) and 20% of the world's fresh water (which is also alot, hence no contrast) and as in A I am not sure if it's totally clear for what exactly are we talking about.

E - above awkward.

It's hard for me to explain my thoughts on such complicated questions,for now, so I hope you got a clue for what I am talking about. When I get deeper in my SC practice I hope to explain myself a lot better :)

IMO D

I couldnot find any subject in A. whats your take?

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by Zipper » Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:54 am

As I said I choose A over D because of WHILE.

WHILE is not the best way to start that sentence, IMO.

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by piyush_nitt » Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:19 am

Zipper wrote:As I said I choose A over D because of WHILE.

WHILE is not the best way to start that sentence, IMO.

still the Q remains. what is the subject in A?

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by Zipper » Wed Jan 07, 2009 4:18 am

In A we have:

300 rivers drain in SLB, which holds 20% of fresh water, which is more than NAGL combined.

The simple subject is "rivers".

In B after removing the modifier we basically have:

WITH 20 percent of the world's fresh water, SLB has more than 300 rivers that drain into it.

Simple subject is SLB.

It's like the reason (it basically shows that) SLB has 300 rivers is that it holds 20 percent of the world's water, which is not the intention of the stem.

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by pbanavara » Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:22 am

I would go with B .. unable to decide between A and B. I think the usage of 'which' is wrong in A.

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by vivek.kapoor83 » Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:06 pm

A. More than 300 rivers drain into Siberia's Lake Baikal, which holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.
Correct

B. With 20 percent of the world's fresh water[color=red], that[/color] is more than all the North American Great Lakes combined, Siberia's Lake Baikal has more than 300 rivers that drain into it.

C. Siberia's Lake Baikal, with more than 300 rivers draining into it, it holds more of the world's fresh water than all that of the North American Great Lakes combined, 20 percent. -Akward

D. While more than 300 rivers drain into it, Siberia's Lake Baikal holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, which is more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.
---I dont think contradiction is req.
E. More than all the North American Great Lakes combined, Siberia's Lake Baikal, with more than 300 rivers draining into it, holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water.

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by tanviet » Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:48 am

Pls, help, why B is wrong

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by tanviet » Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:49 am

Pls, help, why B is wrong

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by pandeyvineet24 » Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:35 pm

actually B changes the meaning of the sentence.

it says.
. With 20 percent of the world's fresh water, that is more than all the North American Great Lakes combined,....

it means that
that is 20 Percent of the world's fresh water is more than all the North American Great Lakes combined....
Whereas the sentence means, that lake baikal has 20% of the world's water and the amount of water in the lake is more than that of all the great lakes.

A for me also.

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by Bidisha800 » Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:53 pm

only (A)

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by nervesofsteel » Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:21 am

E for me uses right modifiers close to things being modified...

Thus E

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by Zipper » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:46 am

E is a JOKE imo

OA?

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