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by akhpad » Mon Mar 29, 2010 9:39 pm
Archaeological excavations of Roman ruins on the Greek island of Crete show that securing control over the maritime trade routes of the Eastern Mediterranean was a primary goal of the Romans, as it was of the Greeks in preceding centuries.

A. as it was of the Greeks
B. like that of the Greeks
C. as that of the Greeks
D. just as the Greeks did
E. as did the Greeks


Can some explain that how to arrive at answer?
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by avishekchaudhury » Mon Mar 29, 2010 9:44 pm
B - correct answer
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by akhpad » Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:06 pm
No. I will disclose answer after some discussion
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by subgeeth » Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:12 pm
IMO A

Even I was confused between B and A

But my answer would be A

Since it correctly refers to primary goal.
B is wrong since like is used to compare nouns- like should be followed by noun instead of that which is clause
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by akhpad » Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:37 pm
I posted it at other forum as well and I found good reply.

https://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/arc ... t9757.html

A is the correct answer.
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by Shawshank » Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:56 am
akhp77 wrote:I posted it at other forum as well and I found good reply.

https://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/arc ... t9757.html

B is the correct answer.
Boss.. u have posted "A" as the correct answer in the mANHATTAN FORUM.
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by akhpad » Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:58 am
sorry
A is the correct answer
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by kevincanspain » Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:22 pm
akhp77 wrote:Archaeological excavations show that securing control over (something) was a primary goal of the Romans, as it was of the Greeks in preceding centuries.

A. as it was of the Greeks
B. like that of the Greeks
C. as that of the Greeks
D. just as the Greeks did
E. as did the Greeks


Can some explain that how to arrive at answer?
Look at the simplified version and you will see that 'it' in choice A refers to securing control over (something)

A. as securing control (it) was (a primary goal) of the Greeks
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by akhpad » Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:37 pm
Good catch

Thanks for help
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by samarpan_bschool » Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:09 pm
refer to q82. OG12 SC
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by thephoenix » Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:59 pm
kevincanspain wrote:
akhp77 wrote:Archaeological excavations show that securing control over (something) was a primary goal of the Romans, as it was of the Greeks in preceding centuries.
Look at the simplified version and you will see that 'it' in choice A refers to securing control over (something)

A. as securing control (it) was (a primary goal) of the Greeks
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can u pls make me clear whats securing control is ........(which phrase...noun adverb adj....whch one)

can it refer to a phrase i was in a mind that it can not refer to pharses.....

can u locate similar usage of it from OG
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by lunarpower » Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:48 am
akhp77 wrote:Archaeological excavations of Roman ruins on the Greek island of Crete show that securing control over the maritime trade routes of the Eastern Mediterranean was a primary goal of the Romans, as it was of the Greeks in preceding centuries.

A. as it was of the Greeks
B. like that of the Greeks
C. as that of the Greeks
D. just as the Greeks did
E. as did the Greeks


Can some explain that how to arrive at answer?
this is a ripoff of an official guide problem -- the original is #73 in OG11, #82 in OG12. you can look at that problem for additional information.

this is one of those situations in which ellipsis (the omission of repeated instances of specific words) is used in parallel structures. here are the parallel structures:

securing control ... was ... a primary goal ... of the Romans
VS
it ... was ... (a primary goal -- omitted) ... of the Greeks

there are your parallel structures.

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(2) someone is probably bound to ask when, exactly, you can omit words, as you can in this structure.
unfortunately, the best answer i can give to that question is simply to state that you should recognize the types of structures in which you can eliminate words, by simply noticing what they look like when they appear in official problems.
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by lunarpower » Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:48 am
thephoenix wrote:can u locate similar usage of it from OG
as i stated above, this is a ripoff of an official guide problem -- the original is #73 in OG11, #82 in OG12. you should probably just go look at that one instead.
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by lunarpower » Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:51 am
avishekchaudhury wrote:B - correct answer
nope.

the problem with (b) is with "like".

when you use "like" after a COMMA, or at the beginning of the sentence, the comparison is ALWAYS with the subject of the preceding clause (whether or not that's intended).

for instance, let's say Brent is attracted to brunettes, and that Brent is also attracted to redheads.
Brent is attracted to brunettes, like redheads --> incorrect. this doesn't mean what you want it to mean; instead, it implies that redheads are also attracted to brunettes (since "like redheads" automatically applies to brent, the subject).
Brent is attracted to brunettes, as he is to redheads --> correct. (note that you don't have to repeat "attracted".)

in this case, then, "like" sets up a faulty comparison between "that of the Greeks" (which doesn't stand for anything anyway -- see below) and "archaeological excavations".
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by lunarpower » Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:55 am
a poster inquired about the following choice in a private message:
C. as that of the Greeks
probably the most straightforward way to eliminate this choice is to realize that "as" is being used incorrectly: it's not followed by an entire clause, or by a prepositional phrase (these are the elements by which "as" should be followed when it's used as this sort of comparison element).
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