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by AIM TO CRACK GMAT » Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:30 am
In a group of 68 students, each student is registered for at least one of three classes - History, Math and English. Twenty-five students are registered for History, twenty-five students are registered for Math, and thirty-four students are registered for English. If only three students are registered for all three classes, how many students are registered for exactly two classes?

13 10 9 8 7


[spoiler]OA = B[/spoiler]
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by GMATGuruNY » Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:20 am
In a group of 68 students, each student is registered for at least one of three classes - History, Math and English. Twenty-five students are registered for History, twenty-five students are registered for Math, and thirty-four students are registered for English. If only three students are registered for all three classes, how many students are registered for exactly two classes?
(A)13
(B)10
(C) 9
(D) 8
(E) 7
This problem is testing your knowledge of overlapping groups. Here is a formula for 3 overlapping groups in which sometimes 2 groups overlap and sometimes all 3 groups overlap:

T = G1 + G2 + G3 - (those in 2 of the groups) - 2*(those in all 3 groups)


The big idea with overlapping groups is to subtract the overlaps. When we count everyone in the 3 groups, those in 2 of the groups will be counted twice, so they need to subtracted from the total once. Those in all 3 groups will be counted 3 times, so they need to be subtracted from the total twice.

In the problem above:
T = 68
G1+G2+G3 = history + math + english = 25+25+34 = 84
Those registered for exactly 2 subjects = x
Those registered for all 3 subjects = 3

Plugging into the formula, we get:

68 = 84 - x - 2*3
68 = 78 - x
x = 10.

The correct answer is B.
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by AIM TO CRACK GMAT » Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:13 am
GMATGuruNY wrote:
In a group of 68 students, each student is registered for at least one of three classes - History, Math and English. Twenty-five students are registered for History, twenty-five students are registered for Math, and thirty-four students are registered for English. If only three students are registered for all three classes, how many students are registered for exactly two classes?
(A)13
(B)10
(C) 9
(D) 8
(E) 7
This problem is testing your knowledge of overlapping groups. Here is a formula for 3 overlapping groups in which sometimes 2 groups overlap and sometimes all 3 groups overlap:

T = G1 + G2 + G3 - (those in 2 of the groups) -2*(those in all 3 groups


The big idea with overlapping groups is to subtract the overlaps. When we count everyone in the 3 groups, those in 2 of the groups will be counted twice, so they need to subtracted from the total once. Those in all 3 groups will be counted 3 times, so they need to be subtracted from the total twice.

In the problem above:
T = 68
G1+G2+G3 = history + math + english = 25+25+34 = 84
Those registered for exactly 2 subjects = x
Those registered for all 3 subjects = 3

Plugging into the formula, we get:

68 = 84 - x - 2*3
68 = 78 - x
x = 10.

The correct answer is B.

Thts surely one of the best methods!!! Thank u so much... Could plzzz explain me the underlined part 1ce? why is it 2*?? Why not jus subtract from Those in all three groups? Also please mention whether it should always be 2* for all the overlaps or jus these kind of questions?Thanks again!!!
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by shenoydevika » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:40 am
Thanks GMATGuruNY!

Two things -
1) Could you elaborate on
The big idea with overlapping groups is to subtract the overlaps. When we count everyone in the 3 groups, those in 2 of the groups will be counted twice, so they need to subtracted from the total once. Those in all 3 groups will be counted 3 times, so they need to be subtracted from the total twice.



2) Is there some standard formula for calculating overlapping groups?
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by Lifetron » Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:07 pm
10 !
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by guerrero » Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:24 pm
https://www.beatthegmat.com/why-does-the ... 56442.html

check the above like . It gives a clear explanation on how to tackle a 3set overlapping question.
shenoydevika wrote:Thanks GMATGuruNY!

Two things -
1) Could you elaborate on
The big idea with overlapping groups is to subtract the overlaps. When we count everyone in the 3 groups, those in 2 of the groups will be counted twice, so they need to subtracted from the total once. Those in all 3 groups will be counted 3 times, so they need to be subtracted from the total twice.



2) Is there some standard formula for calculating overlapping groups?
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