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by rahulg83 » Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:14 am
According to medieval monks, the remains of king Arthur and queen Guinevere were found at Glastonbury Abbey in A.D. 1191, and the Arthur's coffin marked with the inscription (in Latin): "Here lies the Arthur, The Once and Future King.

A) and the Arthur's coffin marked with the inscription
B) Arthur's coffin marked with the inscription
C) and the inscription was marked on Arthur's coffin
D) the inscription that was marked on the coffin of Arthur
E) the coffin of Arthur had the inscription marked

I chose A, but OA is B. [spoiler]Why don't we need the conjunction 'and' here? [/spoiler]
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by scoobydooby » Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:52 am
between A and B as the sentence must end with inscription to make any sense

A. incorrect as "and" must join two independant sentences. A gives rise to a run on sentence with no verb

B. better as it does away with "and" and the need for two independant sentences. presumably the remains of the king and the queen were already coffined and inscriptioned before they were found. the part after comma describes the insciption
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by aj5105 » Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:16 am
And I guess, the sentence with 'and' would have been something like

'and Arthur's coffin was marked with the inscription'
rahulg83 wrote:According to medieval monks, the remains of king Arthur and queen Guinevere were found at Glastonbury Abbey in A.D. 1191, and the Arthur's coffin marked with the inscription (in Latin): "Here lies the Arthur, The Once and Future King.

A) and the Arthur's coffin marked with the inscription
B) Arthur's coffin marked with the inscription
C) and the inscription was marked on Arthur's coffin
D) the inscription that was marked on the coffin of Arthur
E) the coffin of Arthur had the inscription marked

I chose A, but OA is B. [spoiler]Why don't we need the conjunction 'and' here? [/spoiler]
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by goelmohit2002 » Thu Jun 18, 2009 1:33 pm
scoobydooby wrote:between A and B as the sentence must end with inscription to make any sense

A. incorrect as "and" must join two independant sentences. A gives rise to a run on sentence with no verb

B. better as it does away with "and" and the need for two independant sentences. presumably the remains of the king and the queen were already coffined and inscriptioned before they were found. the part after comma describes the insciption
How in "B"...it is an independent sentence ? there is no definite verb like "was", were etc...without which IMO sentence cannot be independent.
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by Domnu » Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:32 pm
B is correct because the answer is a clause which describes the overall sentence.
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by goelmohit2002 » Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:35 pm
Domnu wrote:B is correct because the answer is a clause which describes the overall sentence.
Can you please help me understand how "Arthur's coffin marked with the inscription XYZ"...

is a complete clause...

this is similar to "Book marked with XYZ price..."...

Do not we need something like "was" to make this a complete sentence...

Please tell what I am missing here.
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by thetrystero » Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:08 pm
According to medieval monks, the remains of king Arthur and queen Guinevere were found at Glastonbury Abbey in A.D. 1191, and the Arthur's coffin marked with the inscription (in Latin): "Here lies the Arthur, The Once and Future King.

I couldn't find an answer that was satisfactory.

A) and the Arthur's coffin marked with the inscription
"the" Arthur sounds funny.
B) Arthur's coffin marked with the inscription
not sure how this connects the two parts without a conjunctions
C) and the inscription was marked on Arthur's coffin
"the inscription" has no precedent
D) the inscription that was marked on the coffin of Arthur
again, no conjunction here.
E) the coffin of Arthur had the inscription marked
missing conjunction. is "inscription marked" etc. a correct usage?
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by goelmohit2002 » Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:15 pm
thetrystero wrote:According to medieval monks, the remains of king Arthur and queen Guinevere were found at Glastonbury Abbey in A.D. 1191, and the Arthur's coffin marked with the inscription (in Latin): "Here lies the Arthur, The Once and Future King.

I couldn't find an answer that was satisfactory.

A) and the Arthur's coffin marked with the inscription
"the" Arthur sounds funny.
B) Arthur's coffin marked with the inscription
not sure how this connects the two parts without a conjunctions
C) and the inscription was marked on Arthur's coffin
"the inscription" has no precedent
D) the inscription that was marked on the coffin of Arthur
again, no conjunction here.
E) the coffin of Arthur had the inscription marked
missing conjunction. is "inscription marked" etc. a correct usage?
I second thetrystero...all the choices look bad...
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by Naruto » Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:02 pm
scoobydooby wrote:between A and B as the sentence must end with inscription to make any sense

A. incorrect as "and" must join two independant sentences. A gives rise to a run on sentence with no verb

B. better as it does away with "and" and the need for two independant sentences. presumably the remains of the king and the queen were already coffined and inscriptioned before they were found. the part after comma describes the insciption
Isnt it the other way round, without an 'and' it will be a run on sentence. The only reason why A seem to be a bad choice is because it says 'and the Arthur' had it been and Arthur's coffin then that would have been the ideal choice. I am still not clear on why B is an obvious choice as compared to A.
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by CrazyGmatter » Wed Dec 30, 2009 6:41 am
guys just reopening the thread..

Can anyone shed more light on this..
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by umaa » Wed Dec 30, 2009 6:46 am
Thanks CrazyGmatter.

I'm not convinced with the answer. Any explanation guys?
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by loveusonu » Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:44 am
CrazyGmatter wrote:guys just reopening the thread..

Can anyone shed more light on this..
Good Que, really testing the grammer basics.

A is incorrect because "Arthur's coffin marked with the inscription" is NOT a sentence; to be a sentence, it would have to read: "and Arthur's coffin was marked with the inscription"

B is best among all and logically connects well, but being a native speaker not able to explain apart from saying it sounds perfect.

Can any one explains rule as in how B is connected with whole sentence.
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