Profile Evaluation: Low GPA, 770 GMAT, 7 years Engineering

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Hello all, I apologize for the long post but I wanted to provide as much detail as possible. I'd appreciate it if someone would be kind enough to evaluate my profile:

Age: 30
Ethnicity: White Caucasian
Gender: Male
Location: North Carolina

GMAT:
"¢ 690 (89%) - Q45 (67%), V39 (88%), AWA 5.5 (80%), IR 6 (67%) - First attempt without much preparation
"¢ 770 (99%) - Q50 (89%), V45 (99%), AWA 5.5 (80%), IR 7 (82%) - Second attempt


Education:
"¢ BSCE - Structural Engineering - North Carolina State University - Cum. GPA 2.67 (ouch), there is no real trend up or down, but individual semester performance is a shotgun scatter affair (from 2.0 to 3.5).
"¢ M. Eng. - Structural Engineering - Norwich University - Cum. GPA 4.00

Because my original undergraduate record is terrible, I decided to build an alternative undergrad transcript (quant heavy) through the following:

"¢ 76 distance education credits at UNC - Pembroke to complete BSBA (Finance Track) - GPA 4.00; Cum. GPA (includes transfer credits) 3.58
"¢ 51 distance education credits at Mayville State University (North Dakota) to complete BS Mathematics - GPA 3.89; Cum. GPA (includes transfer credits) 3.49

This was done in about 3 1/2 years. My original stint in college was not taken very seriously which is obvious and is the main reason for the low gpa performance. I suppose this could be spun in some way through the optional essay. I'm also not sure how the relatively unknown reputations of my post-grad schools will affect the applications.


Work Experience:

(1.25 years) After college I worked for a consulting company that did work for industrial and government facilities on improving their manufacturing processes to reduce waste and air pollution. We did testing on many facilities and analyzed the gasses being emitted from the stacks to see if any chemicals were outside of EPA limits. I would then assist with the design of required process improvements. I was at this job for a little over a year.

(5.5 years) Since then I have been at a company that designs and engineers heavy industrial facilities in many states and even in some international locations (Canada, Mexico, Brazil, France, Germany). The work is mostly focused on the wood products, pharmaceutical & material handling (think coal, stone, etc.) industries. While at this job I have seen a few promotions; Design & Engineering Intern -> Structural Designer -> Structural Staff Engineer -> Sr. Structural Engineer. In the 5 or so years I have been at this company I have managed dozens of projects (from the structural work standpoint) ranging in budget from $10,000 to over $100mm. I have been responsible for training and checking the work of 9 engineers and designers under me, however I am not the department manager. I completed both my master's and alternative undergraduate work while working at this firm full-time.

I also have experience in the family real estate business (appraising and running cost-analysis and cash flow charts on potential real estate ventures); this experience has been pretty constant and part-time since I was in high-school.


Professional Licenses & Certifications:

"¢ Registered P.E. in multiple states
"¢ North Carolina Commercial General Building Contractor's License
"¢ North Carolina Real Estate License
"¢ LEED AP BD+C Certification
"¢ PMP Certification
"¢ Currently preparing for the S.E. licensure exam for California, Illinois, Oregon & Washington


Extracurriculars:

"¢ I am a black belt in both Shi-to-ryu and Wado-ryu (started this training when I was 5) and have taught martial arts to kids and young teens for over 10 years (usually through the Y). I also assist at a local school that specializes in teaching kids with developmental issues (i.e. Autism spectrum disorders, ADHD, high-functioning Down syndrome). This helps with their cognitive development tremendously.

"¢ I was a competitive swimmer and diver during high school and college. I was all conference, all regional and competed and placed in statewide meets every year.

"¢ For the last few years I have volunteered with Habitat for Humanity in my local chapter. I originally started as a construction volunteer doing general building work (framing, roofing, etc.) After about six months of experience I became a team leader responsible for 8-12 people performing a specific task which changed periodically based on the stage of construction. Since obtaining my GC license last year, I have been managing entire building projects and coordinating work with sub-contractors. This is something that I really enjoy helping with.

"¢ Member of Engineers Without Borders (EWB), which specializes in engineering and design tasks for underprivileged or poorer areas of the globe. I was involved with a water reclamation system in Sudan and did some of the structural design work for this project. I have provided input and design guidance for numerous other projects, mostly in Africa, India and South America.

"¢ Most recently, I co-founded a charity with another engineer which does architectural and structural engineering consulting work free of charge for local churches and non-profit organizations on a needs basis. The work has been rewarding and we have begun to actively recruit others who wish to provide their services so that we can serve more organizations.

I am confident that I can get good recommendations so that is not really an issue.


Goals:

I would like to get involved in either private equity or executive management in heavy industry & utilities (oil, gas & natural resources interest me) or in major construction and industrial services (think Fluor Corp., Balfour Beatty, KBR, URS, etc.). I perhaps need guidance on narrowing this down.


Questions:

I am not sure which schools to target for my applications as I am unsure if I could even quality for a top 10 (or even 20) program given my academic history. Which programs should I start looking for in regards to Dream / Target / Safe schools?
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by MBAApply » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:05 am
Cryogenic wrote:Hello all, I apologize for the long post but I wanted to provide as much detail as possible. I'd appreciate it if someone would be kind enough to evaluate my profile:

Age: 30
Ethnicity: White Caucasian
Gender: Male
Location: North Carolina

GMAT:
"¢ 690 (89%) - Q45 (67%), V39 (88%), AWA 5.5 (80%), IR 6 (67%) - First attempt without much preparation
"¢ 770 (99%) - Q50 (89%), V45 (99%), AWA 5.5 (80%), IR 7 (82%) - Second attempt


Education:
"¢ BSCE - Structural Engineering - North Carolina State University - Cum. GPA 2.67 (ouch), there is no real trend up or down, but individual semester performance is a shotgun scatter affair (from 2.0 to 3.5).
"¢ M. Eng. - Structural Engineering - Norwich University - Cum. GPA 4.00

Because my original undergraduate record is terrible, I decided to build an alternative undergrad transcript (quant heavy) through the following:

"¢ 76 distance education credits at UNC - Pembroke to complete BSBA (Finance Track) - GPA 4.00; Cum. GPA (includes transfer credits) 3.58
"¢ 51 distance education credits at Mayville State University (North Dakota) to complete BS Mathematics - GPA 3.89; Cum. GPA (includes transfer credits) 3.49

This was done in about 3 1/2 years. My original stint in college was not taken very seriously which is obvious and is the main reason for the low gpa performance. I suppose this could be spun in some way through the optional essay. I'm also not sure how the relatively unknown reputations of my post-grad schools will affect the applications.


Work Experience:

(1.25 years) After college I worked for a consulting company that did work for industrial and government facilities on improving their manufacturing processes to reduce waste and air pollution. We did testing on many facilities and analyzed the gasses being emitted from the stacks to see if any chemicals were outside of EPA limits. I would then assist with the design of required process improvements. I was at this job for a little over a year.

(5.5 years) Since then I have been at a company that designs and engineers heavy industrial facilities in many states and even in some international locations (Canada, Mexico, Brazil, France, Germany). The work is mostly focused on the wood products, pharmaceutical & material handling (think coal, stone, etc.) industries. While at this job I have seen a few promotions; Design & Engineering Intern -> Structural Designer -> Structural Staff Engineer -> Sr. Structural Engineer. In the 5 or so years I have been at this company I have managed dozens of projects (from the structural work standpoint) ranging in budget from $10,000 to over $100mm. I have been responsible for training and checking the work of 9 engineers and designers under me, however I am not the department manager. I completed both my master's and alternative undergraduate work while working at this firm full-time.

I also have experience in the family real estate business (appraising and running cost-analysis and cash flow charts on potential real estate ventures); this experience has been pretty constant and part-time since I was in high-school.


Professional Licenses & Certifications:

"¢ Registered P.E. in multiple states
"¢ North Carolina Commercial General Building Contractor's License
"¢ North Carolina Real Estate License
"¢ LEED AP BD+C Certification
"¢ PMP Certification
"¢ Currently preparing for the S.E. licensure exam for California, Illinois, Oregon & Washington


Extracurriculars:

"¢ I am a black belt in both Shi-to-ryu and Wado-ryu (started this training when I was 5) and have taught martial arts to kids and young teens for over 10 years (usually through the Y). I also assist at a local school that specializes in teaching kids with developmental issues (i.e. Autism spectrum disorders, ADHD, high-functioning Down syndrome). This helps with their cognitive development tremendously.

"¢ I was a competitive swimmer and diver during high school and college. I was all conference, all regional and competed and placed in statewide meets every year.

"¢ For the last few years I have volunteered with Habitat for Humanity in my local chapter. I originally started as a construction volunteer doing general building work (framing, roofing, etc.) After about six months of experience I became a team leader responsible for 8-12 people performing a specific task which changed periodically based on the stage of construction. Since obtaining my GC license last year, I have been managing entire building projects and coordinating work with sub-contractors. This is something that I really enjoy helping with.

"¢ Member of Engineers Without Borders (EWB), which specializes in engineering and design tasks for underprivileged or poorer areas of the globe. I was involved with a water reclamation system in Sudan and did some of the structural design work for this project. I have provided input and design guidance for numerous other projects, mostly in Africa, India and South America.

"¢ Most recently, I co-founded a charity with another engineer which does architectural and structural engineering consulting work free of charge for local churches and non-profit organizations on a needs basis. The work has been rewarding and we have begun to actively recruit others who wish to provide their services so that we can serve more organizations.

I am confident that I can get good recommendations so that is not really an issue.


Goals:

I would like to get involved in either private equity or executive management in heavy industry & utilities (oil, gas & natural resources interest me) or in major construction and industrial services (think Fluor Corp., Balfour Beatty, KBR, URS, etc.). I perhaps need guidance on narrowing this down.


Questions:

I am not sure which schools to target for my applications as I am unsure if I could even quality for a top 10 (or even 20) program given my academic history. Which programs should I start looking for in regards to Dream / Target / Safe schools?
Don't worry too much about your GPA. What works to your advantage is your age - college is ancient history, so that will be taken into account, and they will be more focused on your GMAT as a result, which favors you given your monster score. Secondly, they do cut engineers more slack when it comes to GPAs, since they are graded on a much harsher curve than other academic disciplines, regardless of which university you went to. Of course, your GPA is still low even by engineering standards, but know that it's not fatal.

Beyond that, I think you have a pretty solid profile: strong academics/scores (other than your undergrad GPA), solid work experience as well as good extracurriculars that can add some color to your application.

As such, here's where you stand:

Stretch (choose 2-3 from this list): top 8 schools such as Wharton, Tuck, Sloan, Kellogg, Booth, Columbia and Haas. As for HBS/Stanford - choose 1 of the 2, as you have enough of an outside shot that it's worth it.

Sweet spot (choose 2-3 from this list): top 16 schools such as Stern, Yale, Cornell, Ross, Duke, Darden and UCLA. These are schools where you have a reasonable shot of getting into.

Safety (choose 0-1 from this list): top 30 schools such as Georgetown, Texas, Tepper, USC, Emory, Maryland, Indiana, Purdue, and so forth.

As for your goals, going into some leadership rotational program in the industries you mentioned after b-school is a realistic possibility coming out of any of the schools you mentioned (and maybe what you want to do is to focus only on stretches and sweet spots; should you not get in, then consider top executive or part-time programs the following year instead of applying to any full-time safeties this year). As for private equity - you need to work in investment banking for a few years. Keep in mind that even at schools like HBS, Stanford, Wharton, etc. you're competing against a lot of other folks who already have pre-MBA PE experience, and they will have a huge leg up on you in terms of those kinds of jobs post-MBA.

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by Cryogenic » Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:46 pm
Alex,

Thank you for your prompt and honest reply. What should I look to improve or add to my profile in order to strengthen my candidacy for the upper tier schools, if anything?

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by MBAApply » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:04 am
Cryogenic wrote:Alex,

Thank you for your prompt and honest reply. What should I look to improve or add to my profile in order to strengthen my candidacy for the upper tier schools, if anything?
Just focus on doing the best you can on your applications.

You can't window dress your way into a stronger profile - adcoms can see through it. Anything you do in a few months is marginal at best since it's not going to fundamentally change your body of work over the past 7-10 years of your adult life. In other words, what separates one tier of school versus another isn't just a few months' worth of "starting" a new extracurricular or window dressing of a resume.

Again, the only thing within your control at this point is focusing on doing the best job you can on the applications. Good luck