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Probability, 3 dice simultaneously

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by euro » Wed Sep 29, 2010 7:18 am
(Q) What is the probability of getting a sum of 8 or 14 when rolling 3 dice simultaneously?

a) 1/6
b) 1/4
c) 1/2
d) 21/216
e) 32/216

The official answer is [spoiler](a) [/spoiler]

Can somebody explain?
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by kmittal82 » Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:09 am
Wow, tough one...

Lets look at it case by case

#1) To get 8

8 = :

1+1+6
2+2+4
3+3+2
1+2+5
1+3+4


Since order won't matter, any combination of those 3 numbers will give you a sum of 8. Each combination can further have 6 arrangements


#2) to get 14
14 = :
6+6+2
6+5+3
6+4+4
5+5+4

Since order won't matter, any combination of those 3 numbers will give you a sum of 14. Each combination can further have 6 arrangements

Total outcomes on a roll = 6x6x6 = 216

Fav cases for getting 8 = 5x6/216 = 30/216
Fav cases for getting 14 = 4x6/216 = 24/216

Total probability = 54/216

Unfortunately though, its in neither of the answers, so I know Ive gone wrong somewhere... but where? :)
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by diebeatsthegmat » Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:30 am
euro wrote:(Q) What is the probability of getting a sum of 8 or 14 when rolling 3 dice simultaneously?

a) 1/6
b) 1/4
c) 1/2
d) 21/216
e) 32/216

The official answer is [spoiler](a) [/spoiler]

Can somebody explain?
for sum of 8 we will have
116 ( 161,611) thus there is 3 combination*2 =6 ( we have to multiply with 2 because the 3 dice are all different)
152 ,125, 215,251,512,521 thus there are 6 combination
the same with 143 we have 6 combination
total=18 ways thus probability=18/6*6*6
for sume of 14, we do the same above
266 , 635,464 and also have 18 ways
the probability is 18/6*6*6
total probability is 18/216+18/216=36/216=1/6
hope it helps
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by Stuart@KaplanGMAT » Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:56 am
kmittal82 wrote:Wow, tough one...

Lets look at it case by case

#1) To get 8

8 = :

1+1+6
2+2+4
3+3+2
1+2+5
1+3+4


Since order won't matter, any combination of those 3 numbers will give you a sum of 8. Each combination can further have 6 arrangements
The bolded statement is your error.

For three different digits, such as 1+3+4, there are indeed 6 different arrangements. However, for the cases that have only 2 distinct digits, there are only 3 different arrangements.

So:

1/1/6 - 3 arrangements
2/2/4 - 3 arrangements
3/3/2 - 3 arrangements
1/2/5 - 6 arrangements
1/3/4 - 6 arrangements

Total - 21 arrangements

Similarly for 14:

6/6/2 - 3 arrangements
6/4/4 - 3 arrangements
5/5/4 - 3 arrangements
6/5/3 - 6 arrangements

Total - 15 arrangements

Total possibilities is 6^3 = 216

Prob = # of desired outcomes / total # of possibilities

Prob = (21 + 15)/216 = 36/216 = 1/6
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by kmittal82 » Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:30 am
Thanks for the explanation everyone :)
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by diebeatsthegmat » Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:59 pm
Stuart Kovinsky wrote:
kmittal82 wrote:Wow, tough one...

Lets look at it case by case

#1) To get 8

8 = :

1+1+6
2+2+4
3+3+2
1+2+5
1+3+4


Since order won't matter, any combination of those 3 numbers will give you a sum of 8. Each combination can further have 6 arrangements
thanks for the detail expanation but i thought the dices are different , of course it have the same numbers but its from different dice

The bolded statement is your error.

For three different digits, such as 1+3+4, there are indeed 6 different arrangements. However, for the cases that have only 2 distinct digits, there are only 3 different arrangements.

So:

1/1/6 - 3 arrangements
2/2/4 - 3 arrangements
3/3/2 - 3 arrangements
1/2/5 - 6 arrangements
1/3/4 - 6 arrangements

Total - 21 arrangements

Similarly for 14:

6/6/2 - 3 arrangements
6/4/4 - 3 arrangements
5/5/4 - 3 arrangements
6/5/3 - 6 arrangements

Total - 15 arrangements

Total possibilities is 6^3 = 216

Prob = # of desired outcomes / total # of possibilities

Prob = (21 + 15)/216 = 36/216 = 1/6
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