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by turbo jet » Tue Jul 14, 2009 3:06 am
Simple present (sits) is always preferred to present continuous/ progressive tense (is sitting)
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by goelmohit2002 » Tue Jul 14, 2009 3:13 am
turbo jet wrote:Simple present (sits) is always preferred to present continuous/ progressive tense (is sitting)
IMO This is too simple a rule to apply....if u will see the OG explanations than 50% of the time this rule is broken...

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by ketkoag » Tue Jul 14, 2009 3:21 am
goelmohit2002 wrote:
turbo jet wrote:Simple present (sits) is always preferred to present continuous/ progressive tense (is sitting)
IMO This is too simple a rule to apply....if u will see the OG explanations than 50% of the time this rule is broken...
for every statement in English , there is no separate rule. OR you can not develop a rule for each sentence.. you have to remember few unique rules and use them wisely.. In OG as well there are so many questions in which the standard rules sometimes are not applied directly, but according to the answer choices the rules are used to eliminate the incorrect choices.
so here is the same case; according to the situation and the answer choices you have to play with the rules and apply them to eliminate incorrect choices..
I think e has clear parallelism issues..so incorrect..

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by goelmohit2002 » Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:43 am
ketkoag wrote: I think e has clear parallelism issues..so incorrect..
Hi Ketkoag,

Thanks.

I agree with you that E has parallelism issue...if we consider them as single clause...

but my doubt is why the same cannot be made two independent clauses....where we do not need to maintain parallelism.

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by Sher1 » Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:47 am
I think B is wrong because of the usage of commas makes it a subordinate clause which changes the meaning of the sentence.

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by turbo jet » Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:12 am
Hi Mohit,

Both parallelism and simple past tense makes D the best answer.
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by goelmohit2002 » Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:39 am
turbo jet wrote:Hi Mohit,

Both parallelism and simple past tense makes D the best answer.
Thanks TJ.

No doubt D is best....

But what I want to learn is that which grammar rule is broken by E.....so that we can learn to kick out answer choices in other questions in similar situations....

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by kanha81 » Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:47 am
goelmohit2002 wrote:
turbo jet wrote:Hi Mohit,

Both parallelism and simple past tense makes D the best answer.
Thanks TJ.
No doubt D is best....
But what I want to learn is that which grammar rule is broken by E.....so that we can learn to kick out answer choices in other questions in similar situations....
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Orig: In an attempt to ..., a firm in Scotland has developed a prototype ..., sitting below the surface of the ocean, and it provides ideal conditions for the mollusks’ growth

[D] prototype ..., that sits .... and provides ...
[E] prototype ..., that is sitting ... and it provides ...

See the difference. If you can try eliminating "Middleman", things will flow. Good enough question to extend the discussion to at least 2 pages :)
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by goelmohit2002 » Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:26 am
kanha81 wrote:Orig: In an attempt to ..., a firm in Scotland has developed a prototype ..., sitting below the surface of the ocean, and it provides ideal conditions for the mollusks’ growth

[D] prototype ..., that sits .... and provides ...
[E] prototype ..., that is sitting ... and it provides ...

See the difference. If you can try eliminating "Middleman", things will flow. Good enough question to extend the discussion to at least 2 pages :)
Hi Kanha,

Thanks.

This doubt has been very nicely cleared by scoobydooby in another thread. Thanks to him. Please see the same below.

https://www.beatthegmat.com/is-comma-nec ... 40768.html

As per the discussion there, the problem in this sentence is "not" parallelism but it is a run-on sentence. While practicising OG questions today, I stumbled upon Q#135 of OG-10. In that question, OG talks about the exact same situation and kicks out the option due to run-on issue and not due to parallelism.

Please tell if I am missing something here or there are gaps in my understanding.

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by Stacey Koprince » Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:02 pm
Received a PM asking me to respond. I don't see a source cited for this problem. Please, please, please remember to cite the author of the problem when you post! If nothing else, we experts are not supposed to respond unless / until the author has been properly cited. :)
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by goelmohit2002 » Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:16 pm
Hi Stacey,

The question is picked from

www.sinohits.net/gmat/.../%5BXY07%5DGWD-V-09new.doc

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by Stacey Koprince » Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:20 pm
The link led me to an error message saying the page isn't available.

It's unclear whether the link was leading me to the author's site, or whether the link was leading me to another web site on which people post questions from other sources.

What we actually need here is not where the question was found, but who wrote the question (company or individual name). "Citing a source" means giving the author credit. :)
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by goelmohit2002 » Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:24 pm
Hi Stacey,

Can you please try the link below:

https://74.125.153.132/search?q=cache:WM ... =firefox-a

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by thetrystero » Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:55 pm
In an attempt to produce premium oysters, a firm in Scotland has developed a prototype of a submersible oyster farm, sitting below the surface of the ocean, and it provides ideal conditions for the mollusks’ growth.
A. farm, sitting below the surface of the ocean, and it provides
comma separation makes parent clause a fragment. "it" is redundant

B. farm, sitting below the surface of the ocean for providing
comma separation makes parent clause a fragment. "for" is wrong preposition to use

C. farm that sits below the surface of the ocean and providing
"providing" not parallel with "sits"

D. farm that sits below the surface of the ocean and provides
"sits" is parallel to "provides".

E. farm that is sitting below the surface of the ocean and it provides
"is sitting" not parallel to "provides". "it" is redundant.

D is my answer.

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by Stacey Koprince » Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:44 am
Can you please try the link below:
The link takes me to a list of a lot of questions. The page does not include the author of the questions.

Let's say I'm writing a paper and I want to use this quote: "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."

When I cite that quote, I can't say, "I found this posted over on this web page." That's not actually a citation - that's just a location of a copy of the quote. I actually have to track down the author and give that person / company credit. (Franklin Delano Roosevelt, in this case.)

And we have to follow the rules here, as well - legally, we have to cite the authors of copyrighted material.
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