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by skalevar » Fri Oct 15, 2010 2:45 pm
How many positive integers are less than 10,000 in which the sum of the digits is equals 5?

A. 31
B. 51
C. 56
D. 62
E. 93

I got started on this, but could only try to count up the ways manually. There must be a trick. Please help!

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by diebeatsthegmat » Fri Oct 15, 2010 6:55 pm
skalevar wrote:How many positive integers are less than 10,000 in which the sum of the digits is equals 5?

A. 31
B. 51
C. 56
D. 62
E. 93

I got started on this, but could only try to count up the ways manually. There must be a trick. Please help!

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easy easy... not difficult...
the numbers which its sum is 5 can be
0005=4!/3!1!=4 combinations
1004=4!/2!=12
2003=12 comnibations
1103=12 combinations
1112=4 combinations
2201=12 comninations
total =12+12+12+12+$+4=56
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by uwhusky » Fri Oct 15, 2010 7:52 pm
Yo, easy on the "easy comments."

We're here to share knowledge.
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by GMATGuruNY » Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:02 am
skalevar wrote:How many positive integers are less than 10,000 in which the sum of the digits is equals 5?

A. 31
B. 51
C. 56
D. 62
E. 93

I got started on this, but could only try to count up the ways manually. There must be a trick. Please help!

OA. is C. From Ready for GMAT.com Advanced Quant download.
Here is an efficient way to solve this problem.

Let's say that we have the 5 letters DDDDD.

However we separate the 5 letters, we will still have 5 letters:

DD DD D
D DDD D
DDDD D
DD DDD

We can think of these various groups of D's as digits that add up to 5:

DD DD D means 2 2 1
D DDD D means 1 3 1
DDDD D means 4 1
DDDDD means 5

So any grouping of the 5 letters DDDDD will give us a number the sum of whose digits is 5:

DD DD D will give us 221, 2021, 2201, or 2210.
etc.

So the question becomes:

How many ways can the 5 letters DDDDD be divided into groups?

We can have at most 4 groups, because if we divide DDDDD into 5 groups (D-D-D-D-D), we'll have a 5-digit number. Thus we can divide DDDDD at most 3 times. Let | = separation between groups.

D|D|D|DD = 1112
DD||D|DD = 2012
DD|D||DD = 2102
|DD|D|DD = 0212 = 212
DD|D|DD| = 2120
etc.

So any arrangement of the 8 elements DDDDD||| represents a number the sum of whose digits is 5.

Number of ways to arrange DDDDD||| = 8!/(5!*3!) = 56.

The correct answer is C.

By extension, the number of positive integers less than 10,000 the sum of whose digits is 4 = number of ways to arrange DDDD||| = 7!/(4!*3!) = 35.
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by diebeatsthegmat » Sat Oct 16, 2010 10:21 am
uwhusky wrote:Yo, easy on the "easy comments."

We're here to share knowledge.
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by uwhusky » Sat Oct 16, 2010 11:51 am
Imagine every question you asked in verbal that you thought were tough, and someone responded by saying, "oh that one is easy, it's A."

How does that make you feel? Drop the attitude and stick with sharing information.
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by diebeatsthegmat » Sat Oct 16, 2010 5:59 pm
uwhusky wrote:Imagine every question you asked in verbal that you thought were tough, and someone responded by saying, "oh that one is easy, it's A."

How does that make you feel? Drop the attitude and stick with sharing information.
i just dont feel anything... dont be so sensitive and emotional... if you read it with another emotional such as joking type or something, you would feel different... its all about typing....
and well, i just dont feel anything about it because i dont care.... if they say that, i will think.. ok, so its an easy one, thus i am not good enough to do the test now...
anyways... its all about your emotional when you read someone.... i dont care...
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by uwhusky » Sat Oct 16, 2010 11:24 pm
It's one thing to "respect others" and another to "not care for disrespect." What you need to learn is how to show some respect for others.
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by diebeatsthegmat » Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:34 am
uwhusky wrote:It's one thing to "respect others" and another to "not care for disrespect." What you need to learn is how to show some respect for others.
youre going too far to say whether someone respects a stranger via the way she/he types....just relax and dont be so emotional... thats what i did and will say...sad things that some men are so emotional...
and thank for the unnecessary advance...i wont waste my time on this so move on, mr annoying!
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by uwhusky » Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:59 am
Son, good luck with your application. You have much to learn.

I don't care about what you write, because quite honestly, I don't understand half of what you wrote. I was merely trying to tell you that you should try to be helpful instead of making snarky "easy" comments. But I guess that went nowhere.
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by diebeatsthegmat » Sun Oct 17, 2010 3:28 pm
uwhusky wrote:Son, good luck with your application. You have much to learn.

I don't care about what you write, because quite honestly, I don't understand half of what you wrote. I was merely trying to tell you that you should try to be helpful instead of making snarky "easy" comments. But I guess that went nowhere.
son??? if you say so! he called me son! lol its all about culture and your english level thing... lol... i dont bother anything what you said and dun feel anything hard.... human has to learn for the whole life... thats what i always think... but for what you wrote, i think you've done your learning! congratulation, mr knowledger! lol
by the way, one question. if you dont care why are you so talkative? or you care me? are you ghey? lol
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by diebeatsthegmat » Sun Oct 17, 2010 3:33 pm
uwhusky wrote:It's one thing to "respect others" and another to "not care for disrespect." What you need to learn is how to show some respect for others.
and dont bother,,, the more you write and say something to me, the more i tease what you wrote... lol...
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by frank1 » Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:23 pm
I agree it was not as easy as it was presented(considering will have 2 minutes to solve it)
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by goyalsau » Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:37 am
frank1 wrote:I agree it was not as easy as it was presented(considering will have 2 minutes to solve it)
Absolutely agree with you, Question was not easy.
I think it is of 700+ , And if it not, Then God Help Me,
Because i was not able to solve it in 2 minutes.
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by phoenixhazard » Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:15 pm
GMATGuruNY wrote:
skalevar wrote:How many positive integers are less than 10,000 in which the sum of the digits is equals 5?

A. 31
B. 51
C. 56
D. 62
E. 93

I got started on this, but could only try to count up the ways manually. There must be a trick. Please help!

OA. is C. From Ready for GMAT.com Advanced Quant download.
Here is an efficient way to solve this problem.

Let's say that we have the 5 letters DDDDD.

However we separate the 5 letters, we will still have 5 letters:

DD DD D
D DDD D
DDDD D
DD DDD

We can think of these various groups of D's as digits that add up to 5:

DD DD D means 2 2 1
D DDD D means 1 3 1
DDDD D means 4 1
DDDDD means 5

So any grouping of the 5 letters DDDDD will give us a number the sum of whose digits is 5:

DD DD D will give us 221, 2021, 2201, or 2210.
etc.

So the question becomes:

How many ways can the 5 letters DDDDD be divided into groups?

We can have at most 4 groups, because if we divide DDDDD into 5 groups (D-D-D-D-D), we'll have a 5-digit number. Thus we can divide DDDDD at most 3 times. Let | = separation between groups.

D|D|D|DD = 1112
DD||D|DD = 2012
DD|D||DD = 2102
|DD|D|DD = 0212 = 212
DD|D|DD| = 2120
etc.

So any arrangement of the 8 elements DDDDD||| represents a number the sum of whose digits is 5.

Number of ways to arrange DDDDD||| = 8!/(5!*3!) = 56.

The correct answer is C.

By extension, the number of positive integers less than 10,000 the sum of whose digits is 4 = number of ways to arrange DDDD||| = 7!/(4!*3!) = 35.
Sorry, I don't get why you can't have D-D-D-D-D (1 1 1 1 1), that equals 5?
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