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## Of the applicants passes a certain test, 15

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#### Of the applicants passes a certain test, 15

Thu Oct 03, 2013 6:19 am
Of the applicants passes a certain test, 15 applied to both college X and Y. If 20 % of the applicants who applied college X and 25% of the applicants who applied college Y applied both college X and Y, how many applicants applied only college X or college Y?
(A) 135
(B) 120
(C) 115
(D) 105
(E) 90

OA is D

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Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:19 pm
I think the trap is between AND and OR, If it would have been "OR"
If 20 % of the applicants who applied college X OR 25% of the applicants who applied college Y applied both college X and Y , then
4x + 5y = 300
substitute x for 50 and y for 20 such that 20% for 50 and 25 % of 20 equals to 15
now only students for x OR only students for y = 35 + 5 = 40

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Thu Oct 03, 2013 5:16 pm
Brent@GMATPrepNow wrote:
The equation 15 = 20% A + 25% B assumes that there is no overlap. That is, it assumes that no one applied to college X AND to college Y. However, we know that isn't the case. There is definitely overlap.

Here's another way to put it.
Let's say that we have 10 children.
If we're told that 9 children like ice cream and 8 children like apples, we can't then say that 9 + 8 equals the number of children who like both.

Cheers,
Brent
I made the same mistake what Rahul Made. Assuming 20% of A+25% of B=15 and that is where I got stuck. Thanks brent.

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Thu Oct 03, 2013 6:58 am
I tried but i got very strange answer.. what mistake i made
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Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:02 am

Given:
20% of x = 15
Thus, x = 75
25% of y = 15
Thus, y = 60

The completed table is

Thus those who applied to only college X or college Y = 60 + 45 = 105

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Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:04 am
theCodeToGMAT wrote:
I tried but i got very strange answer.. what mistake i made
You almost have it.

If A = total # of people who applied to college X, then 0.2A = 15
Solve to get A = 75
So, 75 people applied to college X

Likewise, if B = total # of people who applied to college Y, then 0.25A = 15
Solve to get B = 60
So, 60 people applied to college Y

etc.

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Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:05 am
theCodeToGMAT wrote:
I tried but i got very strange answer.. what mistake i made
Hi Rahul,

15 = 20% A + 25% B is the problem.

The statement says If 20 % of the applicants who applied college X applied to both the colleges so you should equate them individually.

Hope that helps.

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Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:07 am
Incidentally, if anyone is wondering what the diagrams in mevicks' and theCodeToGMAT's solutions mean, they are using a technique known as the Double Matrix Method. This technique can be used for most questions featuring a population in which each member has two characteristics associated with it.
Here, we have a population of applicants, and the two characteristics are:
- applied to college X or didn't apply to college X
- applied to college Y or didn't apply to college Y

Then try these additional practice questions that can be solved using the Double Matrix Method:
- http://www.beatthegmat.com/mba/2011/05/05/random-double-matrix-question-1
- http://www.beatthegmat.com/mba/2011/05/09/random-double-matrix-question-2
- http://www.beatthegmat.com/mba/2011/05/16/random-double-matrix-question-3
- http://www.beatthegmat.com/ds-quest-t187706.html
- http://www.beatthegmat.com/overlapping-sets-questions-t183320.html
- http://www.beatthegmat.com/finance-majors-non-finance-majors-overlapping-set-question-t167425.html
- http://www.beatthegmat.com/ds-french-japanese-t222297.html
- http://www.beatthegmat.com/sets-t269449.html#692540
- http://www.beatthegmat.com/in-costume-for-halloween-t269355.html#692116

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Thu Oct 03, 2013 8:07 am
mevicks wrote:
theCodeToGMAT wrote:
I tried but i got very strange answer.. what mistake i made
Hi Rahul,

15 = 20% A + 25% B is the problem.

The statement says If 20 % of the applicants who applied college X applied to both the colleges so you should equate them individually.

Hope that helps.

Regards,
Vivek
Vivek, the question doesn't state the case "individually" very clearly...

If 20 % of the applicants who applied college X and 25% of the applicants who applied college Y applied both college X and Y

There are two ways of interpreting this question: one which I did & other which you did.

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Thu Oct 03, 2013 8:40 am
theCodeToGMAT wrote:
mevicks wrote:
theCodeToGMAT wrote:
I tried but i got very strange answer.. what mistake i made
Hi Rahul,

15 = 20% A + 25% B is the problem.

The statement says If 20 % of the applicants who applied college X applied to both the colleges so you should equate them individually.

Hope that helps.

Regards,
Vivek
Vivek, the question doesn't state the case "individually" very clearly...

If 20 % of the applicants who applied college X and 25% of the applicants who applied college Y applied both college X and Y

There are two ways of interpreting this question: one which I did & other which you did.
Umm, I think there's only one way of interpreting the wording. However, I might have not explained it correctly so check out Brent's explanation for a detailed one. Let me know if it helps.

Regards,
Vivek

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Thu Oct 03, 2013 8:46 am
The equation 15 = 20% A + 25% B assumes that there is no overlap. That is, it assumes that no one applied to college X AND to college Y. However, we know that isn't the case. There is definitely overlap.

Here's another way to put it.
Let's say that we have 10 children.
If we're told that 9 children like ice cream and 8 children like apples, we can't then say that 9 + 8 equals the number of children who like both.

Cheers,
Brent

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"If 20 % of the applicants who applied college X and 25% of the applicants who applied college Y applied both college X and Y"

I personally found the "and" of the statement confusing => 0.2A + 0.25B = 15

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Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:44 am
At first place, we think it as both combines to 15
and makes equation 4x + 5y = 300 which is absolutely wrong.

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Hi Brent,

But the question says: If 20 % of the applicants who applied college X and 25% of the applicants who applied college Y applied both college X and Y

so i thought that 20% of X plus 25% of Y equals to 15!

why is this wrong

Brent@GMATPrepNow wrote:
theCodeToGMAT wrote:
I tried but i got very strange answer.. what mistake i made
You almost have it.

If A = total # of people who applied to college X, then 0.2A = 15
Solve to get A = 75
So, 75 people applied to college X

Likewise, if B = total # of people who applied to college Y, then 0.25A = 15
Solve to get B = 60
So, 60 people applied to college Y

etc.

Cheers,
Brent

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Hi amrabdelnaby,

The 20% who applied to college X are the SAME PEOPLE who comprise the 25% who applied to college Y. As such, you CANNOT count them twice.

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