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by voodoo_child » Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:05 am
Publishers of travel guides for families typically suffer weak Januaries, because vacation budgets are low and efforts to save are intense as families plan for the calendar year ahead.


(A) low and efforts to save are intense as families plan

(B) low and their efforts to save are intense as they plan

(C) low with more intense efforts to save in planning

(D) low, while efforts to save are more intense to plan

(E) low, while their efforts to save are more intense in planning

OA - A
My answer was correct. However, I am not sure why C) is incorrect.

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by aspirant2011 » Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:10 am
voodoo_child wrote:Publishers of travel guides for families typically suffer weak Januaries, because vacation budgets are low and efforts to save are intense as families plan for the calendar year ahead.


(A) low and efforts to save are intense as families plan

(B) low and their efforts to save are intense as they plan

(C) low with more intense efforts to save in planning

(D) low, while efforts to save are more intense to plan

(E) low, while their efforts to save are more intense in planning

OA - A
My answer was correct. However, I am not sure why C) is incorrect.
because C tries to consider that intense efforts to save are a part of vacation budgets but both the things are mutually exclusive and therefore, C changes the intended meaning of the sentence........hope I make sense

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by mukgera » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:20 am
Hi Can someone explain why D is incorrect ?

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by aspirant2011 » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:27 am
mukgera wrote:Hi Can someone explain why D is incorrect ?
While is used when two things are happening at the same time,..........

For example: while I was doing work Mr. X knocked the door.......

Therefore, In the above option D if you apply the same logic then it fails

Also, option D makes unclear on who plans?????

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by mundasingh123 » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:44 am
aspirant2011 wrote:
voodoo_child wrote:Publishers of travel guides for families typically suffer weak Januaries, because vacation budgets are low and efforts to save are intense as families plan for the calendar year ahead.


(A) low and efforts to save are intense as families plan

(B) low and their efforts to save are intense as they plan

(C) low with more intense efforts to save in planning

(D) low, while efforts to save are more intense to plan

(E) low, while their efforts to save are more intense in planning

OA - A
My answer was correct. However, I am not sure why C) is incorrect.
because C tries to consider that intense efforts to save are a part of vacation budgets but both the things are mutually exclusive and therefore, C changes the intended meaning of the sentence........hope I make sense
Why are noth the things exclusive . The budgets may be low because a lot of effort is being put in saving
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by aspirant2011 » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:49 am
mundasingh123 wrote:
aspirant2011 wrote:
voodoo_child wrote:Publishers of travel guides for families typically suffer weak Januaries, because vacation budgets are low and efforts to save are intense as families plan for the calendar year ahead.


(A) low and efforts to save are intense as families plan

(B) low and their efforts to save are intense as they plan

(C) low with more intense efforts to save in planning

(D) low, while efforts to save are more intense to plan

(E) low, while their efforts to save are more intense in planning

OA - A
My answer was correct. However, I am not sure why C) is incorrect.
because C tries to consider that intense efforts to save are a part of vacation budgets but both the things are mutually exclusive and therefore, C changes the intended meaning of the sentence........hope I make sense
Why are both the things exclusive . The budgets may be low because a lot of effort is being put in saving
Option D doesn't mention that the efforts are being put in saving..............

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by mundasingh123 » Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:49 am
aspirant2011 wrote:
mundasingh123 wrote:
aspirant2011 wrote:
voodoo_child wrote:Publishers of travel guides for families typically suffer weak Januaries, because vacation budgets are low and efforts to save are intense as families plan for the calendar year ahead.


(A) low and efforts to save are intense as families plan

(B) low and their efforts to save are intense as they plan

(C) low with more intense efforts to save in planning

(D) low, while efforts to save are more intense to plan

(E) low, while their efforts to save are more intense in planning

OA - A
My answer was correct. However, I am not sure why C) is incorrect.
because C tries to consider that intense efforts to save are a part of vacation budgets but both the things are mutually exclusive and therefore, C changes the intended meaning of the sentence........hope I make sense
Why are both the things exclusive . The budgets may be low because a lot of effort is being put in saving
Option D doesn't mention that the efforts are being put in saving..............
I thought u were talking ABOUT option C
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by aspirant2011 » Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:11 am
sorry my mistake I answered thinking you were asking for option D...........C I feel is awkward because of preposition with as it seems to combine low vacational budget & more intense efforts...........which I feel is not what the sentence means to say......

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by patanjali.purpose » Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:19 am
aspirant2011 wrote:
voodoo_child wrote:Publishers of travel guides for families typically suffer weak Januaries, because vacation budgets are low and efforts to save are intense as families plan for the calendar year ahead.


(A) low and efforts to save are intense as families plan

(B) low and their efforts to save are intense as they plan

(C) low with more intense efforts to save in planning

(D) low, while efforts to save are more intense to plan

(E) low, while their efforts to save are more intense in planning

OA - A
My answer was correct. However, I am not sure why C) is incorrect.
because C tries to consider that intense efforts to save are a part of vacation budgets but both the things are mutually exclusive and therefore, C changes the intended meaning of the sentence........hope I make sense
One more reason to eliminate C is - it not clear what the prepositional phrase starting 'WITH more intense efforts to save in planning' modifies. Can it modify 'budgets'? Can it modify verbal 'are'? No, it can't modify either?

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by mundasingh123 » Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:27 am
aspirant2011 wrote:sorry my mistake I answered thinking you were asking for option D...........C I feel is awkward because of preposition with as it seems to combine low vacational budget & more intense efforts...........which I feel is not what the sentence means to say......
Did U read what i wrote about C
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by mundasingh123 » Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:29 am
patanjali.purpose wrote:
aspirant2011 wrote:
voodoo_child wrote:Publishers of travel guides for families typically suffer weak Januaries, because vacation budgets are low and efforts to save are intense as families plan for the calendar year ahead.


(A) low and efforts to save are intense as families plan

(B) low and their efforts to save are intense as they plan

(C) low with more intense efforts to save in planning

(D) low, while efforts to save are more intense to plan

(E) low, while their efforts to save are more intense in planning

OA - A
My answer was correct. However, I am not sure why C) is incorrect.
because C tries to consider that intense efforts to save are a part of vacation budgets but both the things are mutually exclusive and therefore, C changes the intended meaning of the sentence........hope I make sense
One more reason to eliminate C is - it not clear what the prepositional phrase starting 'WITH more intense efforts to save in planning' modifies. Can it modify 'budgets'? Can it modify verbal 'are'? No, it can't modify either?
With is too far away from vacation to modify it .so it modifies "are " .This makes sense
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by GMATGuruNY » Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:02 am
voodoo_child wrote:Publishers of travel guides for families typically suffer weak Januaries, because vacation budgets are low and efforts to save are intense as families plan for the calendar year ahead.


(A) low and efforts to save are intense as families plan

(B) low and their efforts to save are intense as they plan

(C) low with more intense efforts to save in planning

(D) low, while efforts to save are more intense to plan

(E) low, while their efforts to save are more intense in planning

OA - A
My answer was correct. However, I am not sure why C) is incorrect.
In C, D and E, the comparison implied by more intense is unclear. MORE intense THAN what? Eliminate C, D and E.

In B, their lacks a clear antecedent. Eliminate B.

The correct answer is A.
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by aspirant2011 » Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:10 am
GMATGuruNY wrote:
voodoo_child wrote:Publishers of travel guides for families typically suffer weak Januaries, because vacation budgets are low and efforts to save are intense as families plan for the calendar year ahead.


(A) low and efforts to save are intense as families plan

(B) low and their efforts to save are intense as they plan

(C) low with more intense efforts to save in planning

(D) low, while efforts to save are more intense to plan

(E) low, while their efforts to save are more intense in planning

OA - A
My answer was correct. However, I am not sure why C) is incorrect.
In C, D and E, the comparison implied by more intense is unclear. MORE intense THAN what? Eliminate C, D and E.

In B, their lacks a clear antecedent. Eliminate B.

The correct answer is A.
Thanks Mitch for your explanation........

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by voodoo_child » Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:44 am
GMATGuruNY wrote:
voodoo_child wrote:Publishers of travel guides for families typically suffer weak Januaries, because vacation budgets are low and efforts to save are intense as families plan for the calendar year ahead.


(A) low and efforts to save are intense as families plan

(B) low and their efforts to save are intense as they plan

(C) low with more intense efforts to save in planning

(D) low, while efforts to save are more intense to plan

(E) low, while their efforts to save are more intense in planning

OA - A
My answer was correct. However, I am not sure why C) is incorrect.
In C, D and E, the comparison implied by more intense is unclear. MORE intense THAN what? Eliminate C, D and E.

In B, their lacks a clear antecedent. Eliminate B.

The correct answer is A.
Mitch,
Thanks for clarifying. I have a follow-up question - "more" can be used as an adverb. e.g.

The party grew more interesting ?

Correct? I thought that "more" is used as an adverb modifying "intense".

Can you please correct my thought, please? In fact, your explanation is in-line with Knewton's explanation. I feel that I am definitely missing something.

Thanks for your help.

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by GMATGuruNY » Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:12 am
voodoo_child wrote:
GMATGuruNY wrote:
voodoo_child wrote:Publishers of travel guides for families typically suffer weak Januaries, because vacation budgets are low and efforts to save are intense as families plan for the calendar year ahead.


(A) low and efforts to save are intense as families plan

(B) low and their efforts to save are intense as they plan

(C) low with more intense efforts to save in planning

(D) low, while efforts to save are more intense to plan

(E) low, while their efforts to save are more intense in planning

OA - A
My answer was correct. However, I am not sure why C) is incorrect.
In C, D and E, the comparison implied by more intense is unclear. MORE intense THAN what? Eliminate C, D and E.

In B, their lacks a clear antecedent. Eliminate B.

The correct answer is A.
Mitch,
Thanks for clarifying. I have a follow-up question - "more" can be used as an adverb. e.g.

The party grew more interesting ?

Correct? I thought that "more" is used as an adverb modifying "intense".

Can you please correct my thought, please? In fact, your explanation is in-line with Knewton's explanation. I feel that I am definitely missing something.

Thanks for your help.

Thanks
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It is clear that more is an adverb modifying intense.
What isn't clear is the meaning:

more INTENSE than EXCITING?
more intense IN JANUARIES than in APRILS?
more intense EFFORTS TO SAVE than EFFORTS TO INVEST?


Since it's not clear what's being compared, eliminate C, D and E.

Be skeptical of an answer choice that includes more without than.
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