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SC As Vs Like

by [email protected] » Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:47 pm

61. In Hungary, as in much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many of which are in middle management and light industry.

A. as in much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many of which are in
B. as with much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women works, many in
C. as in much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many of them in
D. like much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women works, and many are
E. like much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many are in

Choice E is Correct i believe if "like" is can be used instead of "as"

Please explain "like" vs "as"

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by varunrajwade » Sat Jun 28, 2008 2:30 pm

Ya I agree with E. I was very confused over C though...

Anyways like and as both show similarity.. However like is used for comparing 2 nouns, e.g. India like Brazil is a large country..

As is used for comparative clauses.. eg. He dances as if he is made of rubber. Remember a clause is a phrase (part of sentence) with a verb. So if the comparison is betn 2 nouns use like, for 2 comparing clauses use as...

And just to complicate things

, use such as for giving examples. E.g. I love fruits such as apples and oranges.

Hope this helps

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by rey.fernandez » Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:34 pm

61. In Hungary, as in much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many of which are in middle management and light industry.

A. as in much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many of which are in
B. as with much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women works, many in
C. as in much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many of them in
D. like much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women works, and many are
E. like much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many are in

Is the OA in fact E, or is that your answer? E combines two independent clauses with a comma -- in other words, it's a comma splice. The two clauses are essentially "a proportion of women work" and "many are". In order to combine independent clauses, you need either a conjunction or a connecting punctuation mark such as a semicolon. For that reason, eliminate E.

Eliminate B and D because they use the singular verb "works," when in this context we want "proportion" to take on a plural verb. (The sentence emphasizes the many individual parts of the proportion, so "proportion" should be seen as a plural subject.)

Eliminate A because it uses the relative pronoun "which" to refer to people. Better to use "that" or "who" to refer to people. Also, it's simply too wordy compared to C.

I'd say go with C.

Rey Fernandez
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by senthil » Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:44 pm

I too feel answer is C
wats the OA?

like is used to comapare nouns, I agree!!!
but here it is

in hungary as in XYZ ......
is better than
in hungary like in XYZ .....

hungary like XYZ ....... wud be more apt...

please let me know if I am wrong
senthil

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by Arabian Baba » Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:11 am

IMO C
Thanks Mr. Rey Fernandez..WELL EXPLAINED !
I totally agree with you.

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by [email protected] » Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:31 am

Thanks to everybody for ur explanation in particular to Ray to ur answer.

The OA is C.

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by Vignesh.4384 » Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:59 am

Hi Rey,

Well explained.
But i still have a doubt.
In option C Hungary and eastern europe are stil nouns right ?
How can AS be used to compare nouns??
Isnt it a rule that AS should be used to compare only clauses?

Thanks in advance

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by chidcguy » Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:24 am

Rey,

You been busy?? We would like you to spend more time here.

This Q hits on "use like when you see nouns" trap

How ever its not Hungary and EE that are compared.

Hungary like EE is correct

In Hungary like much in EE is wrong

In Hungary is describing a condition in H. Like is wrong for comparison.

Between A & C, C stands out for clarity

Please do not post answer along with the Question you post/ask

Let people discuss the Questions with out seeing answers.

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by gmataspirant » Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:17 am

chidcguy wrote:
Between A & C, C stands out for clarity

"A" is not correct because it uses pronoun "which", in this context "whom" should be used for women.

It's a pronoun reference error.

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by logitech » Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:59 pm

I am still confused with "an overwhelming proportion" being a plural noun!

How so ?

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by mals24 » Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:07 pm

There you go Ron Purewal's explanation should help:

"an overwhelming proportion of ..." is a quantity expression. most such expressions, although the words themselves are singular, take grammatically plural forms because they represent quantities that are clearly plural in number.
for instance, percentages, proportions, fractions, and the like fall into this category.
one-third of all the students are chinese --> correct. it'd be ridiculous to write "one-third of all the students is chinese".
on the other hand.
one out of three students is chinese --> also correct. in this case, you're literally saying one student (out of three), so, there you go, singular.

there are also other miscellaneous quantity words that are ostensibly singular but are used in the plural, such as "a dozen", "a trio", and so on. same deal.

in fact, "a lot" is probably the single most common quantity word in (somewhat less formal) writing, and that follows the same prescription: a lot of people were there. you would not, by any stretch of the imagination, write a lot of people was there.

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by tanviet » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:21 pm

I agree that C is correct by Elimination

but I am confuse, "many of them"in C is from what kind of sentence pattern. pls, help

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by apple100 » Wed May 27, 2009 10:43 pm

chidcguy wrote:Rey,

You been busy?? We would like you to spend more time here.

This Q hits on "use like when you see nouns" trap

How ever its not Hungary and EE that are compared.

Hungary like EE is correct

In Hungary like much in EE is wrong

In Hungary is describing a condition in H. Like is wrong for comparison.

Between A & C, C stands out for clarity

So when you compare conditions (e.g., In Hungry vs In EE), "AS" should be used instead of "LIKE"? Thanks!

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Re: SC As Vs Like

by dumb.doofus » Wed May 27, 2009 11:00 pm

[email protected] wrote:61. In Hungary, as in much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many of which are in middle management and light industry.

A. as in much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many of which are in
B. as with much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women works, many in
C. as in much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many of them in
D. like much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women works, and many are
E. like much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many are in

Choice E is Correct i believe if "like" is can be used instead of "as"

Please explain "like" vs "as"

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C seems correct.. rey has already explained why..

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