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by rahulsaroha » Thu May 28, 2009 8:46 pm
yeah, rey.....
good explanation..
it's definitely "c"
hungary like eastern europe is correct..
In hungary like eastern europe is wrong
In hunary as in eastern europe is correct..
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by lunarpower » Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:35 am
California4jx wrote:I doubt about C - my answer would be E, for simple reason that comparison b/w nouns require 'LIKE' - here the comparison is made b/w two countries.
if you open a sentence with "like X, ..." then the following two things must be true:
1 * X is a noun (or something else that can function as a noun, such as a gerund, noun-type phrase, etc). in other words, X should not be a clause
2 * you INTEND a COMPARISON between X and the SUBJECT of the following sentence.

if these 2 things are not true, you can't use "like".

in choice (e), the second of these is not true, because the SUBJECT is not "hungary". the subject is "an overwhelming proportion of women". that's not a sensible comparison.

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in particular, you can't use "like" with prepositional phrases. in that case, you have to use "as", as in the correct answer.
(hey, i did it in that sentence, too. and not even on purpose. sweeeeeeet)

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also note that (e) is a run-on sentence, since the part starting with "many are in..." is a sentence in its own right. you can't have two complete sentences (independent clauses) linked together with only a comma.
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by California4jx » Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:54 am
Thanks Ron, your explanation makese sense .. and now I can see Rey's point as well. Good that I learned something !

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by perfectstranger » Sat Jun 27, 2009 4:53 am
an overwhelming proportion of women work , how can that be singular can someone explain?
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by hemanth28 » Sat Jun 27, 2009 6:04 am
perfectstranger wrote:an overwhelming proportion of women work , how can that be singular can someone explain?
you mean to say .. how can that be plural ?? isnt it ? Good question! I always knew the rule subconsciously , however when you asked I got the doubt as in what the rule exactly is.

Th word proportion is singular as such. "A large proportion is still pending" etc.

This is the excerpt that I found google-ing.

"However when we specify who that proportion is, then things start to get fun.
"A large proportion of the men and women are happy with the government." "Men and women" are plural and so we naturally want to use "are" right next to them. For this reason, "proportion" is used both singularly and plurally.

It's like "group". Group should be singular ... "The Group is happy" But you will see it used as a plural: "The group of runners are happy."
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by lunarpower » Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:44 pm
here's the deal:

if you're using the proportion AS A COLLECTIVE - with an emphasis on something that the group does, or is, TOGETHER and in a unitary manner - then you use the singular.

if you're talking about a proportion, but talking about an action or state in which the individuals PARTAKE SEPARATELY, then you use the plural.

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in the case of "an overwhelming proportion of women work", the women are INDIVIDUALS, working at INDIVIDUAL jobs. therefore, we use the plural.
the use of the singular would wrongly imply that the "overwhelming proportion" works at the same job at the same time (i.e., as a unit).

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in some cases, you can use either the singular OR the plural in these situations, depending on your particular choice of emphasis.

for instance:
a sizable majority votes against this proposal every time it is advanced. --> singular; here, the writer is emphasizing the voters as a single bloc that votes in unison.

a sizable majority vote against this proposal every time it is advanced. --> plural; here, the writer is emphasizing the individual actions of the individual voters (which sum to the overall result).
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by nitya34 » Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:09 am
Thanks Ron
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by ashvidia » Wed May 29, 2013 5:11 pm
rey.fernandez wrote:
61. In Hungary, as in much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many of which are in middle management and light industry.

A. as in much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many of which are in
B. as with much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women works, many in
C. as in much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many of them in
D. like much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women works, and many are
E. like much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many are in
Is the OA in fact E, or is that your answer? E combines two independent clauses with a comma -- in other words, it's a comma splice. The two clauses are essentially "a proportion of women work" and "many are". In order to combine independent clauses, you need either a conjunction or a connecting punctuation mark such as a semicolon. For that reason, eliminate E.

Eliminate B and D because they use the singular verb "works," when in this context we want "proportion" to take on a plural verb. (The sentence emphasizes the many individual parts of the proportion, so "proportion" should be seen as a plural subject.)

Eliminate A because it uses the relative pronoun "which" to refer to people. Better to use "that" or "who" to refer to people. Also, it's simply too wordy compared to C.

I'd say go with C.
EASY EXPLANATION:

D&E: Though "like" is used to compare nouns, here the use of like is incorrect because 'In (Noun) like in (noun)' but here its 'In Hungary like much of..' which is incorrect, in should have been "In Hungary like in much of...'. So D&E are eliminated.

B&D: Both use 'works' i.e. singular for 'women' i.e. plural. So B eliminated

You are left with A & C.

In A: 'many of which are in' is incorrectly used for women. The word 'them' used in C sounds more appropriate for 'women'. Hence A is eliminated.

Correct Option: C