my first attempt at the GMAT &what a complete failure it

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Please help me.

Prior to the test (may 26), I had spent 1 1/2 months studying, but I cannot believe that I did so poorly - 530 (41 Q, 23 V)

Here are the study guides that I've used:
+ Barron's
+ Kaplan Verbal
+ Kaplan Prep
+ Kaplan English Grammar

Since English isn't my first language, I expect to have a lower verbal score than the quantitative score, but did not expect it to be this low. (I was frustrated not finishing the quantitative section that I could barely concentrate on the Verbal section).

As a side note, I took the GRE before graduating from college last May 2006, and I've received 780 Quantitative, 630 Verbal and 5.0 on Writing, resulted a total of 1410.

The last two weeks before the test, I've completed 6 practice tests, resulting between 630 and 720.

What bothered me the most is the inability to finish the quantitative section, which I believe to be my strongest area since I've graduated with a chemical engineering degree and currently working as an engineer for a petrochemicals company. Through out my practice tests, I've focused on Permutation and Combination problems since these are the trickest problem sets that I'll have to face. But still, it's shocking to me that I did poorly on the quantitative section because I've got hung up on several questions, which most of time were spent on them that it did not leave me enough time to finish the test. This never happens to me during the practice tests.

What annoyed me the most is the test center. Having to raise my hand every time I need new non-erasable papers while the lady takes her time to deliver, had distracted me and threw my concentration off.

Currently feeling unease about my result, I cannot take my mind off this poor performance. I'm planning to retake the test in mid September; this will give me 3 months to refocus and restragetize my preparation.

I intend to start doing practice tests in similar setting as the test center, with the corporation of non-erasable papers and markers. I only hope that this tactic will provide me the confidence that I'll need to achieve a better score.


Question 1: I don't know if I should take one of those GMAT prep courses or hire a private tutor for the summer? (Any suggestion: Veritas or Kaplan course. these two programs are offered in my area)


Question 2: I did not take the advantages of the Free 2 practice tests from the MBA.com website when one had registered the test. Although I took some simulation CD tests with a timer prior to the test, I felt that I was under a lot of pressure at the real test, which had impeded my ability to concentrate. Where can I obtain more CD practice tests that simulate the real CAT test?


Question 3: Even if I score higher on my next retake, will this first low score jeoparadize and/or pose a significant drawback on my applications for business schools? I want to pursue an MBA that focuses on Non-Profit (and/or international relation).
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Question 1: I don't know if I should take one of those GMAT prep courses or hire a private tutor for the summer? (Any suggestion: Veritas or Kaplan course. these two programs are offered in my area)

If you have the resources, a GMAT prep course or private tutor might be a good option for you; however, it's certainly possible to do well with self study as well, if you have a strong study plan. From your description, it sounds like timing was your biggest issue on the test, moreso than lack of knowledge on a given topic. I think that if you take a lot of practice tests in a simulated testing environment and practice lots of timed problem sets, you'll be able to improve your score quite a bit.

Question 2: I did not take the advantages of the Free 2 practice tests from the MBA.com website when one had registered the test. Although I took some simulation CD tests with a timer prior to the test, I felt that I was under a lot of pressure at the real test, which had impeded my ability to concentrate. Where can I obtain more CD practice tests that simulate the real CAT test?

MBA.com has links to GMATPrep, which offer 2 free practice tests. These tests are the best indicators of your actual GMAT performance because they feature real but retired questions and ostensibly mimic the adaptive algorithm. Some other good practice test sources include: Princeton Review, Kaplan, Manhattan GMAT.

Question 3: Even if I score higher on my next retake, will this first low score jeoparadize and/or pose a significant drawback on my applications for business schools? I want to pursue an MBA that focuses on Non-Profit (and/or international relation).

For most schools, your first test shouldn't have any effect. Most b-schools consider only your highest score.

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by Stacey Koprince » Mon May 28, 2007 10:14 pm
You said you didn't have timing problems in practice, so nerves played a factor as well on the real test. Sounds like you fell into the classic trap - we've been trained since kindergarten to try to answer every question on a test to the best of our ability... and that instinct can kill you on the GMAT.

There's a huge penalty for not finishing the test, so if you run out of time, it really brings your score down. You will have to, at some point, "pull the plug" on some questions - make an educated guess and move on - so that you do not run out of time at the end. There is NO way to get around this; even if you score an 800, you'd have to do this.

Essentially, the test is trying to find your limits - upper and lower. No matter what you can answer, it can throw something at you that you can't answer (at least, in 2 minutes). So when the test does find your upper limit (that is, gives you a question you can't answer in 2 minutes) and you get sucked into the trap of spending 4, 6, 8 minutes on it... that time has to come from somewhere, and it comes from other questions you could be answering toward the end of the test. (And, on top of that, there's a very good chance you're going to miss the question on which you're spending too much time anyway. All of the questions are designed for SOMEONE to be able to do them in 2 minutes. But on any particular question, that someone might not be you. And if you are spending more than about 2.5 minutes on a question, that's an indication that you don't really know how to do this question - by definition, because you haven't been able to do it in 2 minutes.)

However you study between now and the test, make sure you have a thorough grounding in how the test works and what implications that has for how you take it. If you take it the way you took tests in school, you will NOT get the best score you could get.

FYI: we also hold virtual classes; people join from anywhere and everywhere in the world. The classes are live, meet for the same amount of time as the in-person classes, use the same curriculum and - bonus - are taught by 2 instructors simultaneously. (As one speaks, the other answers questions in the direct messaging window.) The online classes can actually cover more material than the live classes because the instructor who's speaking doesn't have to stop to answer every single question. :)
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by noychheng » Tue May 29, 2007 5:54 am
The virtual classes that you've mentioned, where can I find the link to the class?


Yes, you are right Stacy about my eagerness to correctly answer all the quantitative questions - it is just intuitive of me to do so. For next preparation, I will subject myself to try to improve my timing.


About the prep course, does anyone have any experience with Veritas and Kaplan?

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by drhomler » Tue May 29, 2007 7:00 am
Hey,

In terms of prep courses I would recommend the MGMAT virtual class. Although I do not know anything about Veritas, I used Kaplan for SAT prep and it definitely helped(11 years ago), but the GMAT is an entirely different animal. I was able to do very well on SAT Quant(98%) because I could skip the tougher ones, motor through the easy stuff and save the last 20 minutes that I had accumulated to work through the ones that I couldnt get at first sight. The CAT is nothing like that, if you read alot of the posts on here, most high scorers say something to the tune of "if I had more time I could get all of them right" the problem is you dont have alot of time and each successive question is dependent on you answering the previous question. Enough about the CAT.

Last summer I took MGMAT virtual class, and it was very well done. Unfortunately I didnt use it to the fullest of its ability becuase I was crunched for time(the irony being that I have less time now), I never did the practice Q's or took a single practice test, and never even took the real thing, but I did watch the classes. The books are imformative, with the SC book considered the "gold" standard in SC. The virtual nature of the class saves you commute time, the teachers know what they are talking about, they can answer your questions online or through email. The other major plus is you have access to their online resources with practice Q's and simulated CAT exams. The approach is to teach you how to do the problems and not just the tricks becuase the tricks dont always work and are no substitute for real knowledge.

I hope that helps. I am currently using the old prep materials from them, and following the syllabus-although I have no one to email or ask questions I am using this forum and the mgmat online tests and I am seeing vast improvement.

I am curious you said that you didnt use gmatprep or any courses for your initial prep, so what were the practice tests that you were taking?

One last side note on re-taking the test. I have a friend who also took the mgmat virtual class her initial "real" score was 620 she took it a month later with similar prep and scored a 680. Im not entirely sure if it was nerves, but something tells me it is worth taking it more than once especially if you dont get the score you want. I am taking mine at the end of June and I already plan on taking it in July no matter what( unless I go above 720, which I doubt will happen). I figure if you are going to spend upwards of 100k on an education and the opportunity cost of lost work whats 250 bucks especially if the schools only look at your highest score.

Good luck

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by noychheng » Tue May 29, 2007 7:58 am
The vitual classes are offered through MGMAT. Got it. Thanks for the information.

The practice tests that I took are from 3 CD tests, 2 old paper tests, and 1 Kaplan Prep Book that I had obtained from KAPLAN Prep. Although I didn't finish going through all of them before the real test, I felt confidence since my average percent of wrong questions was less than 5%. (I got the hook up from a friend who is a Kaplan Tutor, who had no use of old materials)

Kaplan 800 (the most recent edition)- I felt the SC and DS were somewhat difficult but not impossible. The RC, CR and PS were somewhat easier than Barron's. After had been studied for the GRE last year, I didn't have to study as much for RC and PS. (I got a 1530 on the SAT, and a 1410, 5.0 writing on the GRE).

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by Stacey Koprince » Tue May 29, 2007 10:16 am
I always recommend that my students assume they will take it twice - build that into your schedule. Then, if you don't have to, treat yourself to a very nice dinner with that $250 you didn't have to spend... :)
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by noychheng » Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:50 am
I got my AWA score - 5.5, 87%. I did better on the GMAT AWA than my GRE AWA. :)

My unofficial Score/% are the same as the official ones. I didn't expect them to change.


My goals for this summer are to concentrate on taking practice tests and to study all my weaknesses. Thanks to this forum and its people, I've downloaded so many useful resources that will allow me to review different materials. I wish I had found this forum before I had begun my preparation for my first GMAT test.