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by force5 » Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:08 am
The Federal Reserve announcement said that growth had accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and that the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are few signs of higher energy prices driving up the cost of other goods so far.
A. that growth had accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and that the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are few
B. growth had accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and that the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are few
C. that growth had accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are few
D. growth had accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are few
E. that growth accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and that the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are few

This SC has come up on the forum before. I want to run it through again please.
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by krishnasty » Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:46 am
i would go with C
IMO, there are 2 'that' to look out for..the one that joins the announcement and the other one about the policy makers..
Usually, when we write some said and then we are using passsive voice, in general writing we use 'that' as a connector. hence, my logic says that announcement said THAT blah blah...
the second that is not required cos its a complete sentence and no use of that is required.

this SC is a tricky one..i would love to hear the OA and the OE..
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by Abhishek009 » Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:15 am
Me too with C !!
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by adi_800 » Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:12 am
Nope...A is correct..Notice that is missing after and in C!!
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by krishnasty » Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:16 am
adi_800 wrote:Nope...A is correct..Notice that is missing after and in C!!
that's exactly the reason y i omitted out A. the use of 2 THAT'S sound unwordy to me. especially when the sentence is in continuation. Can any expert help?
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by adi_800 » Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:21 am
In case of parallelism of clauses, the two parallel clauses should start with the same word...FDA said two things n these 2 things are said in two separate clauses...So, you should use that...
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by Jim@Grockit » Sun Aug 14, 2011 4:56 pm
"That" gets repeated to indicate things said separately, as others have pointed out.
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by pulin » Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:20 pm
so without that second "that" is the sentence is wrong??
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by krishnasty » Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:32 pm
Jim@Grockit wrote:"That" gets repeated to indicate things said separately, as others have pointed out.
exactly...but if we look at the sentence, the entire thing is a continuation and not two separate sentences. still, do we need the 2nd 'that' ???
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by oex85 » Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:38 am
pulin wrote:so without that second "that" is the sentence is wrong??
Yes, because if we omit the second 'that', the sentence doesn't clearly state that it said IN THE ANNOUNCEMENT that policymakers remain concerned.
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by pulin » Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:43 am
oh i got it now i thnk..so if we dont use the other "then" then it wudn't seem like that the next statement has been announced by the federal, it wud be more like a general statement but not their announcement in continuation.... am i right???
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by oex85 » Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:48 am
pulin wrote:oh i got it now i thnk..so if we dont use the other "then" then it wudn't seem like that the next statement has been announced by the federal, it wud be more like a general statement but not their announcement in continuation.... am i right???
Absolutely right.
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by pulin » Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:49 am
:) thanx a lot man..
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by force5 » Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:22 am
this is a strange question. I some how don't agree with the question structure. I agree that the second "that" is absolutely not needed. But do we need the 1st that?
also the question is

"growth had accelerated after showing in the second quarter and the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation"

the growth had accelerated....and policy makers remain concerned... (isn't a good construction)

consider this sentence.
" it was raining and i was unhappy.... i wont call it a good construction.
i'd rather write.
"it was raining but i was unhappy" or although it was raining, i was unhappy because.....
i want to show some contradiction.

Another point.

consider this sentences.
Fred said that he wanted to eat.
Fred said he wanted to eat.

The second sentence is correct and crisp. why would i use "that" then?
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by aspirant2011 » Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:10 am
Hi Force 5,

I don't know whether I am correct or not but from my childhood English teachers what I remember was that while teaching tenses they used to say that with said that should always be used but there with told usage of that shouldn't be there
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