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by kstv » Mon Apr 12, 2010 5:45 am
If x and y are +ve integers, are x & y squares of consecutive numbers?

A . √x + y = 7
B . √y + x = 11
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by eaakbari » Mon Apr 12, 2010 6:06 am
kstv wrote:If x and y are +ve integers, are x & y squares of consecutive numbers?

A . √x + y = 7
B . √y + x = 11

IMO C
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by eaakbari » Mon Apr 12, 2010 6:10 am
On rethinking I am a little confused, the question doesnt explicitly state whether x and y are squares. If they are not answer is E and if they are its A.
Let me assume they are

Statement one
Check squares of a number lesser than 7 that is 4 and 1 which makes options for x any y as 36 and 1 or 4 and 9 . hence Insuff

Statement two
There are 2 possibilities as there are 2 squares less than 11, x can be 4 or 9.Hence Insuff

Combining
4 and 9 is common possibility

Hence C
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by harshavardhanc » Mon Apr 12, 2010 6:16 am
kstv wrote:If x and y are +ve integers, are x & y squares of consecutive numbers?

A . √x + y = 7
B . √y + x = 11
Statement 1:

if X=36 and Y= 1 (X and Y are not squares of consecutive integers)
if X=9 and Y=4 (X and Y ARE squares of consecutive integers)

hence, this is insufficient.


Statement 2:

we have to consider following set of values for (Y,X) :
(100,1)(81,2)(64,3)(49,4)(36,5)(25,6)(16,7)(9,8)(4,9)(1,10)

for the emboldened set the answer is YES.
for all the others, the answer is NO.

Hence, insufficient.

combining these two : only (X=9 and Y=4) is common.

Hence, C is the answer.
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by eaakbari » Mon Apr 12, 2010 6:19 am
harshavardhanc wrote:
kstv wrote:If x and y are +ve integers, are x & y squares of consecutive numbers?

A . √x + y = 7
B . √y + x = 11
Statement 1:

if X=36 and Y= 1 (X and Y are not squares of consecutive integers)
if X=9 and Y=4 (X and Y ARE squares of consecutive integers)

hence, this is insufficient.


Statement 2:

we have to consider following set of values for (Y,X) :
(100,1)(81,2)(64,3)(49,4)(36,5)(25,6)(16,7)(9,8)(4,9)(1,10)

for the emboldened set the answer is YES.
for all the others, the answer is NO.

Hence, insufficient.

combining these two : only (X=9 and Y=4) is common.

Hence, C is the answer.
Oh yes I totally forgot about the number 1 for statement one. Thanks , I shall edit my post
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by akahuja143 » Mon Apr 12, 2010 6:32 am
Thanks for explanation guys!!! you guys will surely nail 50 in Quant section

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by eaakbari » Mon Apr 12, 2010 6:59 am
Thank you akahuja, lets keep our fingers crossed and hope we all get 50 in Quant :wink:

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by pops » Tue Apr 13, 2010 1:46 am
kstv wrote:If x and y are +ve integers, are x & y squares of consecutive numbers?

A . √x + y = 7
B . √y + x = 11
A new approach to the problem.
To suffice the question condition:
(i) x=(k+1)^2 and y=k^2 or
(ii) x=k^2 and y=(k+1)^2

statement 1: plugging in x and y from (i) and (ii)
k+1+k^2 =7 or k+(k+1)^2=7 (plugging (i) and (ii))
k^2+k-6=0 or k^2+3k-6=0
k=3 or -2 or non integer values !
now since we are not able to nail down on one value this is insufficient

statement 2: plugging in x and y from (i) and (ii)
k+(k+1)^2=11 or k+1+k^2=11
k^2+3k-10=0 or k^2+k-10=0
k=5,-2 or non integer values !
now since we are not able to nail down on one value this is also insufficient

combining the above 2 statements we have one common value hence C!

does anyone see any problem with this method ?

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by eaakbari » Tue Apr 13, 2010 2:05 am
pops wrote:
kstv wrote:If x and y are +ve integers, are x & y squares of consecutive numbers?

A . √x + y = 7
B . √y + x = 11
A new approach to the problem.
To suffice the question condition:
(i) x=(k+1)^2 and y=k^2 or
(ii) x=k^2 and y=(k+1)^2

statement 1: plugging in x and y from (i) and (ii)
k+1+k^2 =7 or k+(k+1)^2=7 (plugging (i) and (ii))
k^2+k-6=0 or k^2+3k-6=0
k=3 or -2 or non integer values !
now since we are not able to nail down on one value this is insufficient

statement 2: plugging in x and y from (i) and (ii)
k+(k+1)^2=11 or k+1+k^2=11
k^2+3k-10=0 or k^2+k-10=0
k=5,-2 or non integer values !
now since we are not able to nail down on one value this is also insufficient

combining the above 2 statements we have one common value hence C!

does anyone see any problem with this method ?
In my view , its not wrong and its a different approach but definitely more tedious. You might cross 2 mins while solving
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